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CK3 Dev Diary #13 - The Learning Lifestyle

Oh, it’s Tuesday already! Time to take off my Developer Hat and put on my Developer Who Talks About the Game Hat.

I hope all these dev diaries have been showing off my erudition, deep knowledge and, uh, healthy living? Because it’s time for the Learning Lifestyle!

Seeking out information, acquiring knowledge, and reading everything you can get your hands on should resonate with a lot of you, seeing as that’s more or less what you’re doing right now. You might even have a theological bent and be praying for a release date announcement!
But your prayers will go unanswered for some time yet.

Here are the focuses that the Learning Lifestyle allows for:
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[Medicine Focus - Learning: +1, Health: Small Boost]
[Scholarship Focus - Learning: +3]
[Theology Focus - Learning: +1, Piety: +1/month]


Medicine is the focus for those of you who want to shield yourself and your court from the vagaries of Medieval life. Life is short enough as it stands, and far more so if smallpox decides to take up residence in your castle, or if you’re of the easily-stressed persuasion for that matter.

Scholarship is a good one for those who love to seek knowledge and understand the weirdness and wonder out there. It’s effects are about knowing how to improve your own abilities, and how to improve the realm.

Theology is about the great questions. Who are, and what is the divine? Why does the divine want me specifically to rule the entire world? Its perks offer numerous bonuses to your interactions with your faith and the clergy.

The perk trees themselves match these themes fairly well, but provide you with more detailed options.

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Theologian

I would like us to dive in head first into the realm of theology. Some of the perks here are the straightforward fare you might expect, making others of your faith like you more for being such a staunch practicioner:

Editors note: I started out strong by getting the screenshots wrong, didn't I. Faithful is now corrected, whereas for Church and State, the value in the comment is the currently correct one, not the one in the screenshot. Oh well! (And yes, I am also the editor. Sue me.)

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[Faithful - Clergy Opinion: +10]

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[Church and State - Realm Priest opinion: +30]

From the Council dev diary, you might remember the Realm Priest, who is appointed to give their approval or disapproval to the way you behave. You know, just so the gods can be absolutely certain that you deserve those sweet, sweet church taxes.

It is clear that this is a very powerful perk, but I can already hear you all shout out for answers: “Will this be useless if my religion doesn’t use Realm Priests???”

Fear not, there is a variant of the perk for all those out there who prefer that approach:
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[Church and State - Monthly Piety from Buildings: +100%]

Of course, whether your Realm Priest/Court Chaplain likes you or not is irrelevant to the fact that you can improve the way they build your religious relations by being equally good at all this god-stuff as they are:
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[Clerical Justifications - Religious Relations efficiency: +20%]

Religious Relations is a Council Task, so check the Council DD for that one!

Once you’re considered pious and a brilliant, shining example of an adherent of your faith… wouldn’t you want even more acknowledgement?

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[Radiant - Level of Devotion impact: +100%]

Now, Level of Devotion reflects how good of a believer others think you are. As with other similar values, it is increased by gaining Piety, but your “Devotion Experience” does not fall when you spend Piety, so it’s an ever-growing measure of your life’s accomplishments. Well, ever-growing as long as you do nothing to upset the church, important members of the clergy, or your god(s). At least while anyone’s watching.

Theology isn’t just about your own faith, however. It’s also about how much better it is than every other faith. If you’re going to be doing a lot of conversion, give the Theologian tree a look:

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[Zealous Proselytizer - Convert Faith in County progress speed: +25%]

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[Religious Icon - Convert Faith in County: The Fervor modifier never goes below 0]

Since the Fervor modifier can be so powerful, it can be an immense benefit to prevent it from ever being negative.

Now, it’s really good that we have definitely told you everything about how religions and fervor and all those things work in CK3, otherwise I’d be telling you guys way too much right now.

Especially with perks such as this:
[Prophet - :p:p:p]
NOTE: Ooops, turns out I finally reached the end of the line, here. There’s some things I can’t say as much as I want about, apparently. I can’t wait for you guys to get your hands on the religion DD...

Now, back to the perk tree! Towards the end you can get skilled enough to make some very convincing arguments for why imprisoning your vassals and revoking all their titles is exactly what your god(s) would want you to do!

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[Defender of the Faith - Tyranny Gain: -25%, Same Faith Opinion: +5]

Interestingly enough, this perk changes depending on how tolerant your faith is of others. There’s multiple variations, but here’s one:

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[Defender of the Faith - Diplomacy per Level of Devotion: +1, Monthly Piety: +20%]

At the very end, you’ll get the Theologian trait, which will help provide all the Learning and Piety you could ever wish for. As befits someone who is in such close communion with the divine.


Whole of Body

So, maybe an eternal afterlife isn’t your thing? Maybe you’re more of an eternal current-life kind of person? Then the Whole of Body tree is for you! (Note that it does not confer actual immortality. That would just be a silly thing to have in a game like this, wouldn’t it?)

First, happy news is that a familiar face is going to make a return in CK3: the Court Physician! (Pretend that was a completely new, surprising detail that you never could have guessed.) They work a lot like in CK2, but you can now do something to actually improve them:
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[Anatomical Studies - Court Physician costs less to hire, Court Physician treatments have better outcomes]

Of course, who needs a Court Physician, isn’t it better to just avoid getting sick in the first place?

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[Wash Your Hands - Reduced chance of contracting Illnesses, Reduced chance for Courtiers to contract Illnesses]

Never mind the confused looks as you’re constantly cleaning your hands, and never mind the fact that your pox-ridden ancestors are turning in their graves at your foolishness. It’ll actually help. At least it... might?

There’s a couple other perks that improve your endurance as well.
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[Iron Constitution - Disease Resistance (Fertility): +30%, Disease Resistance (Health): Massive Boost]

Disease Resistance refers to values that are only applied as offsets from disease modifiers. So they won’t have any impact until you get sick, but once you do get sick, it won’t keep you from running around and leaving children everywhere you go. And illnesses won’t drag you into the grave so fast, either.

Lastly, if you want to improve your survivability even when you’re healthy, just be Healthy!

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[Healthy - Health: Significant Boost]

Sometimes the simplest solution is the best.

Health is not only about the body, however, but also about the mind. I know you guys are really excited to hear more about the details of the Stress system, so... we’re going to leave you wanting for a few more weeks!

But there are perks that affect that as well:
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[Carefree - Stress Gain: -25%]

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[Mental Resilience - Time between Mental Breaks: +3 years]
“Agh, not knowing what it means is going to give me a mental break!!”

Then, there are two very cool perks, that both come in handy in a more active fashion. The first is:
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[Restraint - You can take the Embrace Celibacy and Abandon Celibacy Decisions]

Just imagine! Once your children are starting to amass, you might want to start limiting the pool of competing claimants in the inevitable inheritance dispute, and if a few of your Strong, Genius heirs accidentally get thrown off a roof, you can get started on some new ones again!

And finally:
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[Know Thyself - When Death of natural causes is 1 year away, you will receive a warning]

Yup, you read that correctly. It is actually possible to feel it when your time is approaching. I want to emphasise the “natural causes”, though. Disease and cold steel might still take you by surprise, but if you can survive those, then you can be well-prepared by the time you kick the bucket, precisely to avoid the worst of those aforementioned inheritance disputes.

The perk from this tree, Whole of Body, is unusual in that it does not affect your skills at all. Instead, it improves your fertility, your health, and reduces stress gain. Let’s just say that someone who finishes the tree will have a hard time getting killed by anything. (Except for murders and executions. Murders and executions are still pretty deadly.)


Scholar

At long last, the most sophisticated of the perk trees. The one about knowledge and answers, and wisdom for the sake of wisdom. Come with me on this journey into the unknown, where I will reveal to you… more perks?!?

In the Middle Ages, scholarship was undeniably tied to theology, and that means that being a good believer can aid you in being a good learner.

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[Scholarly Circles - Learning per Level of Devotion: +2]

True wisdom is shown in who you surround yourself with, though. So you should surround yourself with servants who are smarter than you are:
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[Learn on the Job - 20% of Councillors’ primary Skill is added to your own]

It’s not only your own skills which can benefit from your focus, either:
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[Pedagogy - Your wards can get additional Skills, and can become your Friends]

Just imagine taking your neighbor’s child hostage educating your neighbour’s child, and ending up friends instead of enemies!

There are perks that help you more efficiently develop your realm:
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[Planned Cultivation - Increase Development in County efficiency: 20%]

And there are other ways the tree helps you improve as well:
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[Scientific - Cultural Fascination progress: +100%]

You’re going to have to wait a while before you get to hear about any of what that modifier means, though. Sorry!

Other perks are good for making friends outside of your own circles:
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[Open-minded - Ignore Negative Culture Opinion]

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[Apostate - Different Faith Opinion: +10, Faith Conversion Cost: -75%]

Wow, those are some cheap conversions, for when your studious research helps you discover a faith you like better than your own!

Once you’re an insufferable know-it-all, you can even talk your way into making religious authorities grant you claims in exchange for your hard-earned Piety.

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[Sanctioned Loopholes - You can use the Buy Claim interaction]

It doesn’t come cheap, but with this much Piety (and your well-formulated arguments), it doesn’t matter what the Pope says.

Lastly we have the Scholar trait, which grants a solid boost to Learning, small boosts to Hostile and Personal Scheme power, as well as a modifier to Development Growth in your Counties.

Knowing stuff comes in handy in a wide variety of ways.



That’s it for today! Knowledge, religion and long lives-

Exactly how long, you ask? *sigh*


Modding: Fine, let’s talk about immortality

What follows here is about modding, and is not used by the vanilla game!

Today I’ve been talking a lot about long lives, but not about eternal lives. Some people really enjoy seeing what their cruel tyrant-queen might get up to age after immortal age, or total conversion mods where magical creatures literally live forever. Well, we haven’t left you out in the cold. We’ve added a simple means for mods to make traits grant immortality, by simply toggling a parameter.

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Immortality will come out of the box with convenient functionality such as value triggers for "effective age" and "real age", and ways of setting those.

To be clear, this will not be active for any traits in the vanilla game, but it makes it easy for mods to add it, should they want to.

Don’t say we never did anything for you!

Especially not when I return next week with the Diplomacy Lifestyle, and some more tidbits about various related things. We’re almost through our massive Lifestyle rundown, and the next DD will bring some of the most impactful perks seen thus far.

Until then!


PS:
A lot of people ask what life as a game developer is. It’s pretty much constant hard work, as you try to fit together an impossibly complicated piece of art on an impossibly tight deadline. But occasionally the game hiccups in fun ways that you’re lucky to get to see. When the character animations started reacting oddly the other day, Peter, one of our UX Designers, saw one of the most important relationships in his life reflected in his in-game marriage:
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Rest well, everyone!
 

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The captions on the Faithful and Church and State don't match the text in the images, though. Mental glitch or out-of-date info?
A little of column A, and a little of column B. I've edited the post now!

Stop teasing us with unexplained features! We can hardly wait as it is!
One day, all will be revealed. Just not today.

I knew I should have shown off the Defender of the Faith version for someone who has low tolerance for other religions.

Oh, but you totally can tell me, at least... *Andrzeji I uses his hook on @Voffvoffhunden*
Oh no! Aaargh! The perk... lets you... predict and prophesise... the contents of future dev diaries...

Dammit, I revealed the secret :(

Please tell me we'll see more reasonable outcomes for treatments, and much reduced chances of wacky conversions.
Yes, it's comparatively restrained.

LIFESTYLE TRAITS SHOULD BE IN CORRESPONDING COLOURS
WE'RE ALREADY USING SO MANY COLOURS TO MEAN SO MANY THINGS. SORRY. :(

What does it even mean? Is death of natural cause set in stone now and it will persist even if we gain some sort of trait that would grant bonus health?
Don't tell anyone I let you know this, but the day has already been written for us all, and none shall escape the appointed hour, as the-
Oh weird, what happened there?
Natural causes is still based on your health, age and some randomness. Know Thyself uses some specific workarounds to function.

Will it affect portraits?
Immortality will freeze the character at an "effective_age", set to what they were when they got the trait in question. The effective age can be changed by a script effect to visually age them. Or make them younger, for that matter.

How viable of a strategy is going for Whole of Body as your 1st completed tree for every character (even characters without a learning education)?
As @Baron von Shoes has pointed out, the time it takes to finish a tree probably means that you'll be spending more time getting all the perks than you will add to your life in the end. It's probably a better strategy to have yourself a long reign for the sake of being able to do other things than just finishing perk trees.

How similar to 'The Reaper's Due' system is the illness system? Will there be symptom traits?
It's a little more streamlined, and there aren't separate symptoms. One disease might turn out to actually be another over time though, in certain specific cases.

What? How did you know what joke I was going to make? Can you read minds? Are you reading mine? Oh man, this is gonna give me two mental breaks now!
If you read the Intrigue DD, you'll know that I have my ways of knowing :cool:
 
Will it affect portraits? I mean, for example, when a child become immortal, will his or her portrait be fixed as a child and never become adult? As is in CK2.
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Portrait age is static if you're immortal, yes.
Child portraits are no longer a thing though; portraits age gradually. But a 10 year old immortal will forever look 10. Unless the mod changes their effective age, which CK3 supports.
 
Oh no! Aaargh! The perk... lets you... predict and prophesise... the contents of future dev diaries...

Dammit, I revealed the secret :(
Well, now I know what lifestyle to pursue! Knowledge of future Dev Diaries would be a useful asset! :D
Yes, it's comparatively restrained.
Good! Very glad to hear that. Looking forward to hopefully hearing a bit more information about illness and treatments in CK3!
 
Locking gameplay options behind the perk trees such as with Sanctioned Loopholes allowing the Buy A Claim interaction is always bad design. EU4 had this issue first with the Forced March ability and then with the Deus Vult idea in Religious Ideas. The problem is that they're either inconsequential and thus not picked, or they're mandatory for a certain playstyle and thus force you to get them. Please reconsider adding anything along those lines.
 
Also, the 'Wash Your Hands' perk is just more Paradox memery. Washing hands had been customary in Abrahamic religions for some time and was common practice among the Romans as well (and I'm sure many others practiced it regularly too). People didn't just stop washing their hands in the Middle Ages and think the idea of disease resulting from lack of hygiene was nonsense.
 
The immortality chain (Matter of Life and Death) from CK2 will be imported to CK3 or immortality will only accessible using mods for the initial release?
 
In CK2, the things you study in scholarship focus are always the same, regardless of region, time and technological progress.

Will you feel a difference in that regard in CK3?
 
@Voffvoffhunden
I just wanted to provide some feedback

It is quite visible by comparision how Theology focus is... somewhat boring in comparision with Medicine and Scholarship! The latter two have very interesting traits allowing alternate playstyles.
Meanwhile Theology mostly just adds percentages. More piety, more clergy opinion, court chaplain opinion, devotion etc.

It would be cool if it had creative bonuses such as Know Thyself, Restraint, Scientific, Open-Minded or Sanctioned Loopholes.

One last thing, outside focus of this DD - I'm kind of disappointed you kept "different culture" opinion penalty. At least this time there seem to be some options to combat it but I never liked how in ck2 extremely multicultural medieval world needs to be so segregated due to universal xenophobia and problems with guardians and landed characters of a different culture.
 
Love these trees so far, CK2s system was fun, but the idea of just a few flavorful and impactful trees for each ruler sounds awesome so far! I can’t wait to see my favorite stat and CK2 focus tree(s) next week!
 
So now we know all lifestyle traits (the martial lifestyle trees are visible on an early screenshot).
That leaves us 6 additional traits. Duelist and Hunter seem obvious. Hedonist and Mystic should make their return from ck2.
I'm not sure about the other two. Alchemist/herbalist and Physician?

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Immortality will freeze the character at an "effective_age", set to what they were when they got the trait in question. The effective age can be changed by a script effect to visually age them. Or make them younger, for that matter.
So the question I have is if someone is going to make a Benjamin Button mod, or am I going to have to learn modding and do it myself?
 
I see that some perks, particularly in the Theologian tree, are flavored and/or give bonuses that make zero sense outside of Christianity, such as the aforementioned Religious Icons perk and iconoclastic religions, and almost all of it will poorly reflect pagan societies. Will modders be able to at least change localization of perk names, descriptions, and icons based on different religions? It's clear the effects can be switched out, as evident by the Church and State perk.

Also, what would the benefits be to clergy opinion vs realm priest opinion, for Catholics at least? If I recall correctly, clergy in your own realm bedsides the realm priest have, effectively, zero presence, so does clergy opinion only really effect your dealings with the pope? Do they effect the realm priest too? If so, do clergy and realm priest opinions stack?