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Dev Diary #113 - Wonderful Views

Hello!

It was really great reading all your comments and questions last week, lots of fun ideas. This week we will be looking a bit more in depth at the wonder view. Which you can see below.

The wonder view. Please note that art is Work in progress and may change!

Firstly, we have the name of the wonder. This will change dynamically based on where it is built, and what upgrades it has. For example you might build ‘The Cathedral of Stockholm’. Then, after building the Spikes upgrade, this may become ‘The Bloody Cathedral of Stockholm’. We also have a dynamic description that works just like the naming system, but more detailed.

There is also an image of the wonder, which is dynamic to an extent as well. The background depends on where you are in the world (Desert, Jungle, Snow etc) and the depiction of the wonder changes depending on the stage, going from being in construction to highly decorated or even in ruins.


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Now, below this we have the modifier box, where you can find all the modifiers provided by the wonder. Some of these are granted by the wonder itself and some are granted by upgrades, but they are all listed here. These modifiers can either affect the top liege, or the province the wonder is in.


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Below this we have the progress bar, which will show your progress when upgrading to a new stage of your wonder.


Lastly, we have the upgrade view which is split into two tabs, completed, and available. In the ‘completed’ tab you can see a breakdown of the upgrades you have built and their effects, and in the ‘available’ tab you can see all the upgrades you are able to build.

let us know, your questions and comments and we will do our best to answer them!

Also as a note, a lot of people have predicted that the ancient Egyptian Religion will be making a return. I can confirm that the Egyptian Religion will NOT be in this upcoming patch. That doesn’t mean we are against it in the future though….
 
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Seems strange to have temple holdings and then a separate temple wonder building.

I'm afraid we're reaching the part of the TV sitcom where they introduce the long-lost niece/nephew to try to freshen up the formula, but everyone knows it's sign the show will be canceled soon.

Start those CK 3 Dev diaries!
 
Seems strange to have temple holdings and then a separate temple wonder building.

I'm afraid we're reaching the part of the TV sitcom where they introduce the long-lost niece/nephew to try to freshen up the formula, but everyone knows it's sign the show will be canceled soon.

Start those CK 3 Dev diaries!
As long as they don't add Ted McGinley, we should be fine.


Edit: That should've included "don't".
 
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The "Temple vassal opinion" stat on the first wonder has me slightly worried - will noble vassal opinion modifiers be available from wonders? They're already extremely powerful when stacked from other areas of the game and if wonders are an easy way to get more of them It could just lead to more powercreep as dynasties snowball
 
Seems strange to have temple holdings and then a separate temple wonder building.

I'm afraid we're reaching the part of the TV sitcom where they introduce the long-lost niece/nephew to try to freshen up the formula, but everyone knows it's sign the show will be canceled soon.

Start those CK 3 Dev diaries!
Not really. The 'temple holdings' - representing the monastic and episcopal holdings around Touraine - pre-existed the magnificent Cathedral of Chartres by centuries. One was a complex of monasteries, seminaries, chapels and parishes, the other an architectural wonder that was created under religious auspices. Not sure how you could confuse the two, really.
 
Also as a note, a lot of people have predicted that the ancient Egyptian Religion will be making a return. I can confirm that the Egyptian Religion will NOT be in this upcoming patch. That doesn’t mean we are against it in the future though….
Kemetic confirmed for the patch after this one! :D

(seriously though: Hellenic was "never going to be added" and we still got it, so Kemetic being even a possibility is off to a better start.)

Could you make the limit on wonders per province un-hardcoded. I'm thinking specifically for mods such as Game of Thrones where there are multiple wonders in King's Landing, but also for vanilla where there are several cathedrals in small areas, hell Constantinople could be said to have at least 2 wonders there, Rome certainly has several.
Hopefully that will come with a later update since they've said it isn't going to start like that.
 
I don’t know if this has been suggested yet, but I think it would be nice adding grand mausoleums, maybe in honor of your wife or father. It could be also nice having it built for you dynasty in general. All of your previous rulers could be buried there.
 
So this means that Kemetism will be coming in the expansion alongside this free update, right? :). You can't trick me with your clever wording, Ra's glorious light cannot be shadowed by Apep for long!
The Morrigan wants to have a word with you. And the Aztecs want their warrior lodge first.

Is there a University kind of wonder ?
I would like my University of Muscat to be a true Wonder: the Muskatonic University... And store my Necronomicon in it.
The horror!
 
Will cruel/arbitrary/insane characters have the choice to blind/maim/murder/otherwise inconvenience the lead architect after their wonder stage or specific upgrade is finished? There's been a few cases of that throughout history.
 
That is one of our stretch goals for this update! Can't promise that it makes it in but it's something we would really like to do =)

You could use the already existing 3d models for the wonders. Just having the ability to add 3d building models on the map via wonders would be really wonderful news for moders.
 
What was wrong with chronicles?
They reset if you reload the save, meaning they'd mostly be blank and not do their job of showing any of your families history. Again, sorry if this was already fixed
 
They reset if you reload the save, meaning they'd mostly be blank and not do their job of showing any of your families history. Again, sorry if this was already fixed

I loaded up a save game and the chronicle appears to be working fine. Looks like the issue has already been fixed.
 
I don’t know if this has been suggested yet, but I think it would be nice adding grand mausoleums, maybe in honor of your wife or father. It could be also nice having it built for you dynasty in general. All of your previous rulers could be buried there.

I’ve always wanted something like this. Perhaps have the possibility of the tombs being looted during a full sack or looting (I.E the loot bar for a holding is fully drained) that would lead to a prestige hit based on how richly decorated the tombs are and how many rulers and other members have been buried in the tombs. That way you would lose more prestige if the tomb that had half the empires budget poured into it to bury the emperors for 200 years VS a viking duke’s burial mound that only housed him and his ship.
 
I loaded up a save game and the chronicle appears to be working fine. Looks like the issue has already been fixed.
Alright great :)