EU4 - Development Diary - 25th of October 2016

[Trin Tragula]

I try to comment when I'm able in the suggestions forum but I'd rather not show up and just say no to an entire thread. Often enough it's better if the discussion to keep going so that as many as feel they want to can give their opinion.
As I've said many times we do read and post as far as we are able.

As for patches it's my understanding of plans that they will indeed be named after the country of the ruler on the loading screen and strive to add flavor to his or her country/region from now on.

 

[Metz]

Would it be too farfetched to have the game map redrawn in a larger resolution so that more provinces could be fit in smaller regions of the world?

 

[grommile]

Would it be too farfetched to have the game map redrawn in a larger resolution so that more provinces could be fit in smaller regions of the world?

It seems to me that you'd need to at least double the linear resolution to do that, which causes a quadrupling of the map data's memory consumption.

 

[Kastane]

Probably Ringkøbing or Holstebro for Vestjylland; possibly Varde.

Aye, Ringkøbing, Holstebro and Varde seems like fitting possibilities. I am only affraid that they do the same as in Vic2, and make it Esbjerg. Lemvig is also a possibility.

Shouldn't it actually be Ribe in the 15th and 16th centuries? I've read that it was the second largest city in Denmark during those times.

Ribe, from what I can see on the map, should be located in the province of Slesvig, no?

 

[Thornado86]

I see Johan posted the development of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. Meaning Bergen didn't recieve the development boost it deserves. After all it was a bigger city than Copenhagen and Stockholm, yet it doesn't show in the game at all. Anyway, playing as Norway should be challenging, it's more fun that way.

However, how will the scaling liberty desire play out for Norway players I wonder.

 

[Metz]

I see Johan posted the development of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. Meaning Bergen didn't recieve the development boost it deserves. After all it was a bigger city than Copenhagen and Stockholm, yet it doesn't show in the game at all. Anyway, playing as Norway should be challenging, it's more fun that way.

However, how will the scaling liberty desire play out for Norway players I wonder.

This would make Norway more interesting and competent.

 

[Gingerninja]

Gib Norwegian Unit Sprite plz

 

[Admiral Fisker]

Ribe, from what I can see on the map, should be located in the province of Slesvig, no?

Ribe was right on the border with Schleswig, but it wasn't in Schleswig.

 

[Kastane]

Ribe was right on the border with Schleswig, but it wasn't in Schleswig.

From what I can see on that map (and from what I know), Ribe was geographically, but not administratively, a part of Slesvig. Also, if you look at the screenshot from the new map, it does look like the border between Vestjylland and Slesvig goes north of Ribe.

 

[Metz]

Ribe was right on the border with Schleswig, but it wasn't in Schleswig.

So splitting Slesvig to make Ribe face west and Slesvig face east would help Denmark a bit more if it succesfully absorbs the Duchy of Slesvig. Also giving Bergen more development would help Norway compete a bit more.

Scandinavia will be very interesting in this upcoming patch.

Is Iceland fine with just 2 provinces?

 

[Kastane]

Is Iceland fine with just 2 provinces?

From what I know - yes. Iceland was very thinly populated. While it might make sense based on local, administrative reasons (how Iceland was actually organized), I don't think you could make any smaller provinces, with a population large enough for it to make sense

 

[Dakka]

However, how will the scaling liberty desire play out for Norway players I wonder.

It shouldn't. The scaling Liberty desire is from size, and PUs aren't affected by development for their liberty desire, only military strength. Besides, with the historical friend modifier Norway will very rarely declare independence unless Denmark is minuscule and/or player intervention

Gib Norwegian Unit Sprite plz

Norway is getting the new Denmark sprite, but a bit recoloured for Norway. Looks like it may have the Lion on its chest as opposed to the Danish flag

 

[Metz]

From what I know - yes. Iceland was very thinly populated. While it might make sense based on local, administrative reasons (how Iceland was actually organized), I don't think you could make any smaller provinces, with a population large enough for it to make sense

If population and demographics were added to the game then we could have more provinces that don't necessarily mean people live there. They would help with military manuevering and maybe eventually founding towns and cities at later dates.

 

[grommile]

And the game would run slower, and even fewer people would play past 1600, and the population distribution of the world would look really goofy by 1820.

 

[Metz]

Everyone is too fixated on Scandinavia to notice that Danzig has a strait connecting it to Konigsberg.

 

[Samuel The Conqueror]

Clearly, no one is willing to answer about the political map question, they probably just don't know yet.

 

[Dakka]

Clearly, no one is willing to answer about the political map question, they probably just don't know yet.

Johan stated on Twitter (pretty sure the link was provided on this thread) that there should be an option to toggle it in game options

 

[Samuel The Conqueror]

Johan stated on Twitter (pretty sure the link was provided on this thread) that there should be an option to toggle it in game options

Everyone still keeps asking it though, not that much on this thread, maybe it's buried somewhere where people don't bother to look.

 

[Dakka]

https://twitter.com/producerjohan/status/790974763749474305

Everyone still keeps asking it though, not that much on this thread, maybe it's buried somewhere where people don't bother to look.

 

[Wagonlitz]

I think I'm just not communicating this very well, but the region my province figure is one province higher than yours is that the population data I found for Danish Jutland included Fyn, so I was including that in the province tally as well. You are right in that Danish Jutland itself would be 4.5 provinces, but since the data I had was drawn directly from the Danish regions, and for some reason whoever drew those regions up lumped Fyn with southern Jutland, I included Fyn as well. Does that make more sense? Sorry.

e: I suppose I hadn't really looked at it from the perspective of the balance between Denmark and Sweden, and you are quite right, then. But I would still argue that the fact that Albania not only under-performs immensely but is missing almost all of the nations that made it up is kind of a crisis of representation. Something to be addressed immediately.

I don't know. Sometimes I feel that northern Europe gets way too much focus and attention in Paradox games. That's probably why I'm just a bit jaded about even more attention being paid to a region in northern Europe when there's still so much work to be done elsewhere. You make really good points about Denmark's balance against Sweden, but I still feel a bit put out that whole countries are still missing from the map while one country is getting a fish market event chain.

Again, I apologise if I'm being unfair.

I think I'm just not communicating this very well, but the region my province figure is one province higher than yours is that the population data I found for Danish Jutland included Fyn, so I was including that in the province tally as well. You are right in that Danish Jutland itself would be 4.5 provinces, but since the data I had was drawn directly from the Danish regions, and for some reason whoever drew those regions up lumped Fyn with southern Jutland, I included Fyn as well. Does that make more sense? Sorry.

e: I suppose I hadn't really looked at it from the perspective of the balance between Denmark and Sweden, and you are quite right, then. But I would still argue that the fact that Albania not only under-performs immensely but is missing almost all of the nations that made it up is kind of a crisis of representation. Something to be addressed immediately.

I don't know. Sometimes I feel that northern Europe gets way too much focus and attention in Paradox games. That's probably why I'm just a bit jaded about even more attention being paid to a region in northern Europe when there's still so much work to be done elsewhere. You make really good points about Denmark's balance against Sweden, but I still feel a bit put out that whole countries are still missing from the map while one country is getting a fish market event chain.

Again, I apologise if I'm being unfair.

Albania's split.