EU4 - Development Diary - 2nd of October 2018

[Lepaso]

I'm incredibly interested to see how Jake manages to completely avoid doing anything relating to colonization; seeing as RB did absolutely nothing with it, and Britain was mildly important in colonizing the new world, or so I've been told, I can see Iberia Immersion managing to eschew it for the Netherlands/Italy instead.

 

[Cardolam]

Iberia... good!
One of the features in this DLC could be the return of the old missions under a new name. They provided random objectives for the game and served a different purpose gameplay wise than the present missions. Other than the minor art needed, old missions don't even require anything in terms of the development of the DLC.

More stuff to be included other than the obvious Iberian content:

- Colonization
- Mahgreb region revamp
- Spanish American easy conquests (include plague cataclysmic events)
- Portuguese "Feitorias"
- Raiding mechanism redone. It's awful at present.

 

[Grif2501]

Its funny, everyone has been asking for a HRE update, and we get India, poland, and now most likely Iberia.

 

[NaiveCarto]

Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia Indonesia

Seriously, there is currently no region in Eurasia that is as flat-out wrong as is Indonesia, followed (with some distance) by SEA (you know your province setup is bad when it was inspired by the current political boundaries in the region).

I have also researched South east Asia at this time based on Cambridge's textbook, which shows that:
1, North Vietnam need developments most, which needs 2 times more development to reach the average level of West Europe;
2, Bali Island need about 1 times more development to reach the average level ( if Lombak included );
3, Java need 57% more development to reach the average level;

4, other regions never should get more development, especially Malay, Maluku, Khmer-Champa, Siam, Kalimantan, Luzon and Mindanao.

Population data comes from Cambridge's Southeast Asian History, which is the estimation in 1600AD.

Java doesnt have very very high population density at EU4's timeline...... North Vietnam faced the hardest time after Later Lê Dynasty's collepse until 1800s.

 

[Nyrael]

Its funny, everyone has been asking for a HRE update, and we get India, poland, and now most likely Iberia.

What the hell are you talking about? Iberia DLC has been strongly demanded, more than any other region, since RB.

 

[Vladechni]

What if, it is an Iberia plus HRE dual update?
DUN DUN DUUUUUN.

 

[Dr_Harnsaft]

In terms of catholicism, could Santiago be made a province?

 

[Gouda_boy]

Way to take an inconspicuous photo of Seville . Unlike DHARMA where many people speculated the location for weeks

 

[CosmicChronos]

Spain was HRE Emperor, confirmed hre update?

 

[IrishGirl]

What the hell are you talking about? Iberia DLC has been strongly demanded, more than any other region, since RB.

You beat me to it. Many players have been requesting an update from Iberia for as long as I've been on these forums.

It's the principal of supply and demand. As soon as you supply people with what they've always wanted, they will immediately demand more.

But I love to play as Castile so no compaints from me. Another update I'm looking forward to.

 

[Aramenian]

Poland is waiting for the correct placement of cities and change of Mazovian flag

 

[Piotrzeci]

When we are on topic of Iberia; please buff formation of Andalusia.
It moves capital to crappy province with low development and bad defensiveness and doesn't give special ideas (even the ones of Granada).

 

[Ayoub13Berrahel]

Hopefully this update to Iberia bring a little flavour to the Maghreb region aswell, at least let Tlemcen form Algiers, It's kinda dumb when the only nations that are able to form Algiers are Mzab and Tougourt, The Zyyanids dynasty are an important part in Algerian culture and history, they defended Algiers against Hafsids(Tunis) and Mirinids(Morroco) and basically created the borders of the Algerian Nation that exists today, and it has relations with Spain who's the main focus of this patch, as they conquered Marsa El-Kbir and Wahran in 1505 and 1509 and Kabyile in 1510 as they continued attacks on Algerian ports up to Jijel and Annaba, and since the Zyyanids couldn't protect Algerian ports from the spanish, those cities called on "Oruç Reis" and "Hayreddin Barbarossa"(The guy in the Mare Nostrum DLC picture) and with the help of the Ottomans they kicked the spanish out of Algeria and then The Zyyanids (Tlemcen) fell in their hands in 1554 forming the Regency of Algiers who was a Vassal/March of the Ottomans up to 1830

I don't have time to get into more details, but if there's any intrest by paradox on the history of the region or at least Algeria, I can create a thread on the suggestion forums as I would LOVE to see more flavor to that region

 

[Cardolam]

Great, Iberian reworking and immersion! Does that mean new colonization mechanics, or maybe new Iberian cultures (like Brazilian)? Asking for a friend.

Brazilian? Don't you think it seems far fetched geographically wise? And what about time wise? Brazil didn't exist in the game time frame and when it was born its culture was Portuguese...

 

[hannibal_barca]

Thank God!

The Portuguese and Spanish empire's creation read like a High Adventure script! Can't wait. I am going to buy Dharma today (and the content pack) just because of this!!

 

[Cardolam]

Will Portugal get new provinces, like splitting Lisbon into Lisbon and Setubal?

... and we will have a single pixel to click on...
Portugal has a reasonable number of provinces already. I hope development goes in other directions.

 

[Barón Rojo]

My prediction: This will consists in adding 3 buttons to Spain in the government window: An Inquisition whatever, a Tercios whatelse and a Conquistadors morever, or some other cliche about the Spanish empire. Too bad it is an "immersion" pack and not a proper dlc. An opportunity lost for proper colonization of America, one where you don't have to see Indians becoming modern republics and conquering systematically European colonies to the ai, and later converting their European settlers to whatever American Pagan religion.

 

[Cathal341]

I just started a Castile Game, God Dammit! I guess i'll play Portugal or Aragon when this drops or maybe Granada, yea Granada sounds good.

 

[hannibal_barca]

My prediction: This will consists in adding 3 buttons to Spain in the government window: An Inquisition whatever, a Tercios whatelse and a Conquistadors morever, or some other cliche about the Spanish empire. Too bad it is an "immersion" pack and not a proper dlc. An opportunity lost for proper colonization of America, one where you don't have to see Indians becoming modern republics and conquering systematically European colonies to the ai, and later converting their Europeans settlers to whatever American Pagan religion.

Yes, I fear this may be the case. 3 buttons with the same "+10 percent conversion rate" , "rebellion supression +20%". Just rename them something relating to Spanish history like you mentioned. The DLC's are crazy expensive and they don't really add any new mechanics.. just buffs here and there and upgrade this or that. Why is CKII getting the much much more creative DLCS?

 

[Cardolam]

My prediction: This will consists in adding 3 buttons to Spain in the government window: An Inquisition whatever, a Tercios whatelse and a Conquistadors morever, or some other cliche about the Spanish empire. Too bad it is an "immersion" pack and not a proper dlc. An opportunity lost for proper colonization of America, one where you don't have to see Indians becoming modern republics and conquering systematically European colonies to the ai, and later converting their European settlers to whatever American Pagan religion.

This.