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EU4 - Development Diary - 2nd of October 2018

Good day all and welcome to today's Dev Diary for EU4. Yesterday we released the free 1.27 Poland Update, packed with free content, map changes, bugfixes and such. Today we're going to be talking about the release as well as our plans going forward.

Firstly, with the Poland Update, we have updated EU4 to be GDPR compatible. You may have noticed a Privacy Policy when you tried to launch the game for the first time after the update. As part of this, we also had to remove the old versions from Steam due to them not being GDPR compliant but fret not if you want to keep enjoying the golden oldies. This link contains everything you need to know to get your old version back.

Now the Poland Update has our players making wealth common and impaling left & right. We'll be keeping our eyes on any issues that are coming in from players. We already have a plan to release a prompt fix for any serious issued popping up including but not limited to:

  • Centenarian Venetian Doges.
  • Lithuanian infeasibility in forming PLC
  • Some users not being able to start the game due to missing dependencies
As well as any other serious issues which we see occurring for users in 1.27 Poland

But beyond Poland, what lies in store for EU4? Well, as I mentioned just after Dharma, we're now looking to put the Europa back into Europa Universalis. With extensive love poured into India, The Far East and the Near East, it's high time we brought some attention back to Mother Europe. Poland was a good start, but we'll be rolling up our sleeves and getting to work on an Immersion Pack for our next release. Where will we be focusing? Well, the Pet Shop Boys would be pleased, because we're going to Go West!


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Next week @neondt will do what he does best with the upcoming map changes in 1.28.
 
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Finally good news! I hope this dlc will give also some flavour to Maghreb area as It always finishes with a big tunis (there are some exceptions).

Ah! Please do not forget to remove Catalonian culture from València, Alicante or Castellón (in case this last is added). These regions never had catalonian culture and they were part of the kingdom of Valencia. Valencian culture is different than catalonian and it should have it's own València core.
Cultures in Iberia that should be present in the game:
- Castilian
- Catalan
- Aragonese
- Valencian
- Andalusian
- Portuguese
- Galician
- Leonese
- Basque

So yeah, the only one missing is the Valencian one.
 
The Valencians are Catalans who migrated to the new lands conquered by the Catalan knights. Its identity is in practice a traditionally Catalan identity. With its same language and with similar institutions.
Valencian is a mix of Catalan, Aragonese, Castilian and Moor culture.

But I do agree is not that bad to leave it as Catalan culture, although some Valencian may not like it hahaha
 
Valencian is a mix of Catalan, Aragonese, Castilian and Moor culture.
Like all cultures..., but its mother culture (and more influential in terms of institutions, language and traditions) is Catalan. The Valencian culture exists to the extent that Extremadura's culture exists, that is, one is a subculture of the Catalan culture and another of the Castilian culture.
 
Like all cultures..., but its mother culture (and more influential in terms of institutions, language and traditions) is Catalan. The Valencian culture exists to the extent that Extremadura's culture exists, that is, one is a subculture of the Catalan culture and another of the Castilian culture.
True. But the fact that the Kingdom of Valencia was independent from Catalonia, and has a recognized different language, it may be enough reason to represent it as a different culture.

But as I said, I don't mind if Valencia remains as Catalan culture, it is not the most accurate thing but it is not wrong either.
 
True. But the fact that the Kingdom of Valencia was independent from Catalonia, and has a recognized different language, it may be enough reason to represent it as a different culture.

But as I said, I don't mind if Valencia remains as Catalan culture, it is not the most accurate thing but it is not wrong either.
Nobody questions their independence. Of course Valencian is the language spoken by Valencians, but it is the same language that in Catalonia is called Catalan with its own localisms and modalities, it is a language that changes from urgell to tarragona, from castelló to "l'horta" changes to the coast. It is a language with diverse localisms (modalities) in the same way as Spanish is in Castile and in Mexico.
if they put the Valencian culture they will have to put a thousand more cultures in the game to represent the particular identities of all the peoples of the world.
 
"[T]he historical patrimonial language of the Valencian people, from a philological standpoint, is the same shared by the autonomous communinites of Catalonia and Balearic islands, and Principality of Andorra. Additionally, it is the patrimonial historical language of other territories of the ancient Crown of Aragon [...] The different varieties of these territories constitute a language, that is, a "linguistic system" [...] From this group of varieties, Valencian has the same hierarchy and dignity as any other dialectal modality of that linguistic system [...]

— Ruling of the Valencian Language Academy of 9 February 2005, extract of point 1" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencian
 
The West? Woot! Will we see a fix for wrong province names such as "Alicante", "Rousillon" or "The Baleares"?* Wouldn't it be more consistent to have all names of one culture group in the same language instead ofmixing three languages?

*Whole catalan culture group has its names in Catalan (València, Girona, Urgell...) but for "Alicante" (Alacant in Catalan/Valencian), "Rousillon" (Roselló in Catalan) and "The Baleares" (Les Balears in Catalan and The Balearic islands in English)
 
Please dont forget the Maghreb nations as a counter for Iberia. I suggest:
1. unique ideas
2. buffs for their armies and naives
3. better raiding/berber raiding system
4. interaction (maybe something like silver fleet in the new world) with subsaharan caravan gold trade
5. more land
6. more interaction with the Ottoman
7. more events and bigger impact of the Moors, Jews and Moriscos
8. connection for the trade between Saf and Tunis
 
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The Valencians are Catalans who migrated to the new lands conquered by the Catalan knights. Its identity is in practice a traditionally Catalan identity. With its same language and with similar institutions.

Thatssimply not true. And its proven to be untrue. Barely 5% of the people who migrated who werent that many to begin with because there already was a iberoroman population with its own language(valencian, as historical documents from the muslim period from the Xth century prove), were catalans. In fact, there were more italians and french than catalans. And theey werent settlers. There were nobility who got land rewarded after the conquest for their efforts, so there wasnt even such thing as colonization, because as I said, the land wasnt deserted, there was already a majority of iberoroman population + the muslim minorities).

And it wasnt the same language, although they had common roots, and they werent the same institutions, since valencian institutions come from the fueros recoginsed by the king Jaime I, based on the common law of the city of valencia that had been in placed for centuries sine the romans).

I know thats not the official story they tell you at school but it was proven that the archives were manipulated by a catalonian nationalists and its all ben already disproven. Theres loads of info on it, look it up. Although some of it may be in valencian.
 
Excellent. We finally get the Long-awaited “Spain” patch. My only qualm is that I wasn’t able to get my suggestion thread going beforehand. I guess I will condense it to something a bit more appropriate for a few small parts that should be easy to patch in if they won’t be already.
 
Aragon need a small rework

Adding castellon province , then aragon, catalonia and valencia will have 3 provinces in each state
Adding the TAG of kingdom of Valencia and TAG for kingdom of mallorca for represent the decentralization of Aragon Crown
Adding valencian culture to the 3 provinces of kingdom of Valencia
Will be interesting a new kind of goverment based on "fueros" for aragon and for later when Spain be formed,king of spain have to deal with the courts of portugal,aragon,valencia,catalonia
Adding the option off using the "Reforma de union de armas del conde duque olivares" for get 100% centralization of all the kingdoms,obviusly this choice will destroy "fueros monarchy"
 
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I know thats not the official story they tell you at school but it was proven that the archives were manipulated by a catalonian nationalists and its all ben already disproven. Theres loads of info on it, look it up. Although some of it may be in valencian.

I'll just add that when I was in school in Valencia, every year our teacher made us correct lots of grammatical errors and words because the publishers printed the same books to teach the language and just changed the front page. xD
 
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Thatssimply not true. And its proven to be untrue. Barely 5% of the people who migrated who werent that many to begin with because there already was a iberoroman population with its own language(valencian, as historical documents from the muslim period from the Xth century prove), were catalans. In fact, there were more italians and french than catalans. And theey werent settlers. There were nobility who got land rewarded after the conquest for their efforts, so there wasnt even such thing as colonization, because as I said, the land wasnt deserted, there was already a majority of iberoroman population + the muslim minorities).

And it wasnt the same language, although they had common roots, and they werent the same institutions, since valencian institutions come from the fueros recoginsed by the king Jaime I, based on the common law of the city of valencia that had been in placed for centuries sine the romans).

I know thats not the official story they tell you at school but it was proven that the archives were manipulated by a catalonian nationalists and its all ben already disproven. Theres loads of info on it, look it up. Although some of it may be in valencian.

Thanks for the excellent explanation, I was actually going to do the same. I'm valencian and no one better than we (valencians) to know about our culture. We and catalonians share the same language (with varieties, but I'm not going to go deeper in this topic as I'm not specialist), but when it comes to the culture we are not the same by far. Our history, institutions, festivities, mentality and traditions are far away to say that it is the same. If there's a difference between leonese and castilian I see no reason why it shouldn't be the same with catalonian and valencian. Just imagine catalonian separatist rebels having a core in Valencia because of the wrong culture... Now it's the real moment to change it and to make it historical.
 
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Instead of more Iberian cultures, we need melting pot cultures for Latin America.