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HoI4 Dev Diary - AI Plans

Hello, and welcome back to the very last feature DD before we release Man the Guns on February 28th. Today we will be showing you a few more details of the AI strategy plans you can set in the Custom Game Rules Menu.

In Waking the Tiger, we created the backend support to give the AI multiple paths it can go down, and in the free 1.6 'Ironclad' update releasing together with Man the Guns, we have expanded this feature by combining it with the Custom game Rules menu, which now allows you to pick which path a country should go down.

Every country with a unique focus tree now has at least two AI strategy plans, depending on the number of branches in the focus tree. You can either pick which plan the AI should follow specifically, let the AI pick a plan at random, or tell the AI to obey the other game settings.

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The setting for an AI overrides all other game settings, so if you check historical focuses but tell the German AI to restore the Kaiser, it will pick Oppose Hitler anyway.

Since this would allow you to set up scenarios that would make some achievements fairly trivial, these settings largely disable achievements.

It should also be noted that this allows you to create combinations that lead to situations we didn’t anticipate when we made some focus trees (“Should Democratic Germany really ally with Communist Hungary to contain Fascist France? What if Britain is Communist?”) or event chains. Given the often mutually-exclusive nature of focus trees and the sheer number of possible combinations, that can lead to situations where one AI can no longer continue its path or things behave in an unexpected way.

Today, we are going to go through a little AAR based on one of the little scenarios people around the office have been using: “How many monarchies can I have at the same time?”

So Germany will bring back the Kaiser, Hungary will restore Austria-Hungary, Romania will aim to achieve Balkan Dominance, Japan will restore the Emperor, Manchukuo will attempt to gain independence, Britain will give support to the King’s Party (Charles II of Romania approves, but is quietly told that is not what that means) and finally the Netherlands will try to support the only man in the Dutch government - Queen Wilhelmina. France is kept as default (so it will react to Imperial Germany), the US and Mexico are set to be random. We will observe from the country of Uruguay.

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Germany kicks off the Monarchist revival with their civil war. As a little sidenote: we have reworked the positioning of the armies at the start of the German Civil War a little to give a more coherent front line. Meanwhile, the Hungarian AI has decided to strengthen the Monarchists, Britain is still building up its industry and Japan is supporting the Kodoha Faction.

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While the German Civil War rages, Britain continues to build up and Hungary is rushing down the branch to restore the monarchy. With Romania set to expand later, that is probably the right choice.

Hitler’s Summer Offensive has the Royalists in Germany on the backfoot for most of 1936 before they manage to contain it. At the same time, Otto von Habsburg has assumed the Hungarian Crown. Incensed by Edward’s insistence to marry Wallis Simpson, the British government has resigned. Manchukuo is still biding its time, building up its industry.

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By October 1936, the Royalist counter-offensive is in full swing and has largely succeeded in restoring the original frontline. Meanwhile, Otto’s first act as King of Hungary is to start an ambitious program of industrial expansion - believing, no doubt, that providing jobs to the Hungarian workers will help build support for his rule.

Surprising many observers, Alf Landon has defeated Roosevelt in the presidential elections and wastes little time in returning the dollar to the gold standard in a bid to undo the damage wrought by the irresponsible policies of his predecessor.

As 1936 turns into 1937, the Royalists in Germany have pushed deep into fascist territory in the South and the far North. The British Empire has broken into pieces as the Dominions have shed the last ties to their former mother country, causing one British Civil Servant to exclaim “Not since Helen of Troy has such misfortune been brought over a great nation by a single woman!” (Churchill, reportedly, remarked “If only she had been single.”)

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About a year after the insurrection started, the writing is on the wall for Hitler. A last-ditch offensive in Mecklenburg has failed with only moderate territorial gains. As the King’s Party solidifies support for the monarchy in Britain, Otto von Habsburg has begun to take the next step on his way to restore the old lands of his dynasty: Turning Hungary into Austria-Hungary by adding Austria through a referendum.

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By early April 1937, the fighting has reached Berlin. Hitler orders all available resources to be thrown in a counterattack under General Steiner, but is informed by his Generals that this attack did not take place. He takes the news with his usual stoicism. The city falls a few days later, and the fascist government does not survive the end of the month.

In Britain, Edward has taken the crown and is evidently preparing a great coronation ceremony. Against all expectations, the people of Austria vote to return to the rule of a Habsburg King.

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The rather hasty departure of India from the British Empire brings the question of the Muslim population in the country to the forefront: worried about a lack of representation, Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh have taken up arms to defend their freedom. Observers expect a long and bloody struggle.

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By this point, the Civil War in Spain is considered little more than a sidenote, as Alf Landon shocks the world with a strong commitment to a policy he calls simply “America First”.

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The news of a minor incident in the Zeppelin Hindenburg is missed by most major newspapers, although German Princess Victoria Louise has reportedly shown a great interest in it.

Meanwhile in Asia, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek is preparing a new offensive to finally bring the warlords on the periphery under his control. Emperor Puyi has successfully re-negotiated the relationship to Japan, giving him much more control over internal matters.

As the press in Europe prepares to attend the official ceremony in which King Otto of Hungary is crowned Kaiser of Austria-Hungary and the German Military Government declares its commitment to restoring the monarchy, the central government in China has declared the “Southern Pacification Campaign” against the obstinate Guangxi Clique and the governor of Yunnan.

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The Spanish Civil War ends in a Republican victory. In his first speech as Emperor of Austria, Otto announces that his government will seek to deepen ties with the former provinces of Bohemia and Slovakia, while also extending his warmest congratulations to the German government for defeating “the poisonous snake of fascism” in their country, promising to do what he can to help them in restoring the old order.

Seeing the way the wind is blowing (especially since their traditional ally, France, seems to face a resurgence of communism and may not be available to protect them for much longer), the Czechoslovakian government decides to accept Otto as King of Bohemia and be absorbed again into the resurgent Austria-Hungary. Not to be outdone by his now much larger neighbour, Charles II of Romania takes steps to institute a Royal Dictatorship.

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In India, Pakistan has shocked observers by reversing initial Indian gains and taking the offensive, with fighting now in the outskirts of Delhi. In Manchukuo, Emperor Puyi has purged the General Affairs Council of everyone he suspects of divided loyalties. In neighbouring China, the war in the southern part of the country has ground to a stalemate while Chiang Kai-Shek turns towards what many suspect was his true objective all along: eliminating the small base of the Communist party.

On the 4th of August, 1938, some 20 years after he was forced to abandon his throne, Kaiser Wilhelm II returns to Germany. The world, he remarks, seems to have finally understood why it needs monarchs. Meanwhile, Austria-Hungary, although still technically under the provisions of the Treaty of Trianon, has begun a barely-concealed rearmament program.

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The fortunes of war in India have turned once again, as India has launched a major offensive along the entire front and has pushed back Pakistani forces all along the line.

With the demise of the Hitler government in Germany, fascist Italy is looking increasingly alone on the world stage. This is cemented by diplomatic maneuvering at the highest level, with an exchange of personal letters between Kaiser Wilhelm II and his distant cousin Edward VIII. It appears that both see eye to eye with regards to Italy, and some diplomats even speculate that this is but the first step towards a full-scale alliance between the previous enemies. With France looking increasingly likely to fall to communism, Germany is eager to secure its back while it deals with the communist threat on the continent.

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In the final days of 1938, Indian forces finally crush the last bits of Pakistani resistance and end the long and bitter struggle.

At the start of 1939, the political landscape of Europe has changed quite dramatically. Two monarchs regained the thrones they had lost in 1918, and one has brought back the crown to a level of power not seen in centuries. In the Far East, Emperor Puyi is biding his time, as he knows that Japan must eventually strike against the Soviet Union - and when it does, his moment has come. The King of Romania has cemented his power, and although any attempt to strongarm Hungary is now impossible, he may yet assert his position on the Balkans.


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Meanwhile, in the US, conservative and reactionary elements have made a comeback, leading to a decisive shift to the right of US politics. With the post-war order in Europe collapsing and old thrones being restored, the US starts to prepare for an intervention in Europe, should it come to that.


That’s all for today. Next week we will have a MASSIVE RECAP episode, and then it’s time for the 1.6 Patchlog and Man the Guns release the week after.
 
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I think the retrn of the czar is a realistic option if its in order to legitimize a military take over. Its not about really restoring monarchy but having a figurehead.
I think that D. MacArthur is a viable option for an american monarch, Napoleon style. Surely, nation will be happy to see their king in fashionable aviator sunglasses.

Ok, back to serious talk. If you want to legitimize military coup in Soviet Union of 30-s, you have two paths.

1) Blame Trotsky and his agents, purge opponents under that cause, be more stalinists than Stalin himself. Well, publically. Promise to the nation to find everyone responsible and punish them, use cult of Stalin's personality as base for own legitimacy, promise to continue the policy of Lenin and Stalin. Under this sauce you can do anything - from building own military autocracy Napoleon-style to lead to nationalist turn in internal politics ("Great Russian Revolution and bright socialist future, nealy stolen from our heroic nation by jews").

2) Blame Stalin for everything, that happens in the state, create a block of publically known figureheads to give your power formal recognition, well, can call Trotsky to return - but that means, you are going to give HIM your power, so, maybe there is sense to kill him too and blame hidden stalinists. Still, you have to "continue course of Lenin", at least publically.
 
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I call for giving other focus paths in the frames of theoretically possible. That is the trick with alt-history, without which it is not alt-history, but some silly memes.

Otherwise, by the arguement "why not" we can get ressurection of dead body of Nikolai II, or summoning the spirit of Karl Marx ("ghost of communism" trait). Because, why not? MORE MEMES!
I do partially agree with you there but most and I mean MOST not all of the Alt paths they have done had some possibility of happening like the Kaiser coming back could've happened early on in Hitler's rule as he hadn't solidified his rule yet and Wilhelm II had very strong connections in the German government as well as good popularity among the people still, but a Communist Japan is far from any possibility as the Japanese were a very nationalistic people at that time and they NEVER would've gotten rid of their Emperor whom at that time they thought was a God even though in reality the Japanese government made sure he had no say in what Japan did as if he did then the invasion of Indochina would've never happened, war with the USA would never have happened as Hirohito wanted to stay friends with the USA and not to provoke them and Japan would've been far more likely to take action against the USSR than the Western powers.
 
I think that D. MacArthur is a viable option for an american monarch, Napoleon style. Surely, nation will be happy to see their king in fashionable aviator sunglasses.

Ok, back to serious talk. If you want to legitimize military coup in Soviet Union of 30-s, you have two paths.

1) Blame Trotsky and his agents, purge opponents under that cause, be more stalinists than Stalin himself. Well, publically. Promise to the nation to find everyone responsible and punish them, use cult of Stalin's personality as base for own legitimacy, promise to continue the policy of Lenin and Stalin. Under this sauce you can do anything - from building own military autocracy Napoleon-style to lead to nationalist turn in internal politics.

2) Blame Stalin for everything, that happens in the state, create a block of publically known figureheads to give your power formal recognition, well, can call Trotsky to return - but that means, you are going to give HIM your power, so, maybe there is sense to kill him too and blame hidden stalinists. Still, you have to "continue course of Lenin", at least publically.
MacArthur can become President of the United States of America in the current game's state in the 1944 elections if I remember correctly (which is historical as MacArthur ran for President in those elections but didn't give much effort because he wanted to focus more of the war which was far more important for him to do in my opinion than running for President.).
 
MacArthur can become President of the United States of America in the current game's state in the 1944 elections if I remember correctly (which is historical as MacArthur ran for President in those elections but didn't give much effort because he wanted to focus more of the war which was far more important for him to do in my opinion than running for President.).
Yep. But I'm speaking about establishing monarchy in USA. To show absurdity of situation through understandable analogy.
 
I do partially agree with you there but most and I mean MOST not all of the Alt paths they have done had some possibility of happening like the Kaiser coming back could've happened early on in Hitler's rule as he hadn't solidified his rule yet and Wilhelm II had very strong connections in the German government as well as good popularity among the people still, but a Communist Japan is far from any possibility as the Japanese were a very nationalistic people at that time and they NEVER would've gotten rid of their Emperor whom at that time they thought was a God even though in reality the Japanese government made sure he had no say in what Japan did as if he did then the invasion of Indochina would've never happened, war with the USA would never have happened as Hirohito wanted to stay friends with the USA and not to provoke them and Japan would've been far more likely to take action against the USSR than the Western powers.

"Communist" Japan had some plausibility, but not in the way paradox made it. The Young Officers (the clique for poor army officers who weren't part of any samurai family) coup on the 26th of february (in 1936) could have succeeded thus installing a semi-communist but still very much pro-Emperor government. But considering that Young Officers were de facto Kodoha 2.0 it wouldn't have differed in any way from, well, the Kodoha path. Or it would be neutrality path with full isolation.

Edit: when I'm thinking about it, the path could have had Emperor change or something, considering that Hirohito didn't like the fact that another government got slaughtered. Wiki says that Prince Chichibu could have been an option. Anyone with more knowledge about 1930s Japan would be really helpful right now.
 
"Communist" Japan had some plausibility, but not in the way paradox made it. The Young Officers (the clique for poor army officers who weren't part of any samurai family) coup on the 26th of february (in 1936) could have succeeded thus installing a semi-communist but still very much pro-Emperor government. But considering that Young Officers were de facto Kodoha 2.0 it wouldn't have differed in any way from, well, the Kodoha path. Or it would be neutrality path with full isolation.

Edit: when I'm thinking about it, the path could have had Emperor change or something, considering that Hirohito didn't like the fact that another government got slaughtered. Wiki says that Prince Chichibu could have been an option. Anyone with more knowledge about 1930s Japan would be really helpful right now.
Useful information already. Any thoughts about their foreign policy? If they are semi-communist, some dialogue is possible with Moscow or not?
 
Yep. But I'm speaking about establishing monarchy in USA. To show absurdity of situation through understandable analogy.
Don't worry, we'll slowly assimilate you into the ahistory camp over the next few months. Resistance is futile!
 
Finally, you people are actually taking steps to improve the horrific and utterly embarrassing AI... I don't know what's more appalling when playing single player- watching all majors upgrade 12 different variants of interwar-fighter, or watching New Zealand capitulate Italy with 2 horse divisions during Barbarossa. God forbid you program the AI to build well-rounded out 40width templates, I would hate to hear your 'main player base' crying because they don't care to learn how to play optimally, opting instead to play on "very easy" so their 14 width divisions can push all the way to Berlin... /facepalm this AI.
 
Useful information already. Any thoughts about their foreign policy? If they are semi-communist, some dialogue is possible with Moscow or not?
By semi-communist I meant the economic system they wanted, you could call them Nationalist-communist or something. And probably any dialogue w/ moscow would be declaration of war or signing a peace treaty. And I don't know if they had any foreign policy. I guess it was shoot-on-sight on any foreign/non-Japanese ship, lol, as I was saying, they were pro-isolation, anti-capitalist and pro-Emperor. How are you supposed to even call them? National-communism? Communist monarchy? There is option for national-socialism but nazis weren't isolationist, quite opposite in fact. Again, I don't know that much about this stuff. If there is someone on the forums that is interested in Japanese military factions and politics in 1920s and 1930s, please say something!
 
By semi-communist I meant the economic system they wanted, you could call them Nationalist-communist or something. And probably any dialogue w/ moscow would be declaration of war or signing a peace treaty. And I don't know if they had any foreign policy. I guess it was shoot-on-sight on any foreign/non-Japanese ship, lol, as I was saying, they were pro-isolation, anti-capitalist and pro-Emperor. How are you supposed to even call them? National-communism? Communist monarchy? There is option for national-socialism but nazis weren't isolationist, quite opposite in fact. Again, I don't know that much about this stuff. If there is someone on the forums that is interested in Japanese military factions and politics in 1920s and 1930s, please say something!
I just assume that if they were pro-communist in terms of economic policy, while, well more tolerable in theory to the fact of existence of USSR (than Kodoha at least), they could try to establish trade relations with Soviets to try solve deficit of raw resources for own economy. It is more productive than to fight with Soviets for Far East where there are no known resources to obtain immediately.
 
Germany, for example, is more weighted to go Kaiser or Fascist than democratic in random mode, but that is easy to change if people want to do that

Spoilers for you @Archangel85: people have been asking for that (truly random AI) since launch in 2016. Please, make it happen. :)
 
I think that D. MacArthur is a viable option for an american monarch, Napoleon style. Surely, nation will be happy to see their king in fashionable aviator sunglasses.

Ok, back to serious talk. If you want to legitimize military coup in Soviet Union of 30-s, you have two paths.

1) Blame Trotsky and his agents, purge opponents under that cause, be more stalinists than Stalin himself. Well, publically. Promise to the nation to find everyone responsible and punish them, use cult of Stalin's personality as base for own legitimacy, promise to continue the policy of Lenin and Stalin. Under this sauce you can do anything - from building own military autocracy Napoleon-style to lead to nationalist turn in internal politics ("Great Russian Revolution and bright socialist future, nealy stolen from our heroic nation by jews").

2) Blame Stalin for everything, that happens in the state, create a block of publically known figureheads to give your power formal recognition, well, can call Trotsky to return - but that means, you are going to give HIM your power, so, maybe there is sense to kill him too and blame hidden stalinists. Still, you have to "continue course of Lenin", at least publically.
As a historian, yes you are right, neither of the great powers had much dynamic in terms of their ideology, except France.
What I should have said is that the ONLY feasible way of explaining a return of the czar would be as a figurehead for a military government. It is still very unlikely. Given this is HoI4 and the people want this kind of nonsense history it will happen, I want the discussion to be not about whether or not they should, because they will, but how they will implement it.
 
Just no. I dont want the AI to have some magical powers advantage over me.
This is just what you think. In a real game, you will not notice how exactly the AI came to its divisions. You just notice, whether the AI division composition feels natural for the country and time. And you feel, whether the game will give you a proper challenge for your skill level and game style. And this is of course different for everybody, which is why we have difficulty levels.
See for example here how the CIV 4 chief developer saw cheating.
 
@Archangel85 So just to be clear if I wanted to play for achievements and unchecked 'historical focuses' when setting up a game would that mean that Germany now picks either direction in which it approaches the Rhine or overthrowing Hitler? (Assuming this wasn't directly answered yet :) )
 
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Find it humerous the devs are kicking this back to the mods to instill it for them. Seriously doesn’t that just scream your reluctance to bother getting involved with us directly? Also how far are you are willing to go and extend that rules sections in terms of specifics? You gonna input a fort limiter In tiles? You gonna put a zone restriction of where kamikazes can operate in? Are you gonna restrict the type of divisions that can be build Aka space marines or set a limitor of the division sizes aka must be 10-20 width or higher? And so on and so forth.

In all honesty you would save yourself a lot of time if you just hopped in several of the big name communities and shaped your development based off the general concepts throughout those rule sets.
I dont get you, why would everybody play this sandbox game as you would imagine it? i understand 40 width divs are kinda cheesy, but there is no competitiveness in hoi4 since every nation is different, this game would be better in team vs team modes rather than 1v1 who could get the lowest worldtensions and etc. I think it would be better if the community creates their own vision of rules and limits. I am happy that the devs are giving the community the platform and the tools to make it even more customizable. I am happy that they arent limiting our fantasies with their rules for mp, and they are getting more choices to us with MtG.
 
In all honesty you would save yourself a lot of time if you just hopped in several of the big name communities and shaped your development based off the general concepts throughout those rule sets.

Why in the world would they do that? Every mp community put together would likely not add up to even one percent of the playerbase.