War Effort - Operation Tungsten [1.12.6 - Checksum a6ba]

[Idle America]

I would once again like to submit my request that, if Canada can get cores on the USA, the USA should be able to get cores on Canada.

 

[Trevok]

After waiting so long, I just want that Canadian Newfoundland Referendum decision for Canada, in 1945. Historically Britain wanted Canada to safeguard the Caribbean holdings and such.

 

[marcelo r. r.]

to guys with 1.12.16 beware of the change which now "Military Governor" is the default starting occupation law.

if u start with a country that already start with high compliance colonies, like Portugal(~70% compliance on all colonies), and u forget to change to civilian oversight, ur colonies will be losing compliance with military governor..

few additional notes:

- i didn't have time to test if this is specific to Portugal or other countries.
- i didn't have time to check AI countries in same situation behaviour about this.
- apparently(i clicked on states) UK colonies has set "local autonomy", i don't know if the AI auto changed it, or it already started with local autonomy.

 

[MobiusTwo]

I've got two minor proposed changes for France:

1. This first one is one I've brought up before, but I'm persistent about it because I would like the borders for Vichy France to be accurate. It shouldn't be a very difficult change - the easternmost province of Pyrénées-Atlantiques simply needs to be transferred to the next state over to the east. When the Basque Country releasable nation was added, this province was moved to the Pyrénées-Atlantiques state, which means that the borders of Vichy France can never be historically accurate. I don't think this is a good change, because a releasable nation that will almost never see use in the game should not be prioritized over the historical borders of WWII administrative territories.

2. I think it would be cool if Saarland could become a state. The state would only contain one or two provinces, but it would be rich in coal and iron, as it was in real-life. Historically, France claimed this region after both WWI and WWII, but both times, the people of Saarland voted to remain with Germany. Franco-German disputes over this seemingly-insignificant territory helped lead to the creation of the European Union, so I think it is important enough to include in the game. In the game itself, France would have the option to core this state or release it as a special puppet (at the cost of a permanent reduction of relations with Germany) after WWII

 

[King_Potat]

I would just like to see more states on the map so that certain historical borders would be possible to make. Additionally, it would also provide some opportunities for released nations to have a larger industry. States like northern-schleswig, jubaland, lethsoto (probably spelled it wrong), and eswatini would provide historical borders while improving the potential economic output of those countries.

 

[goodcigar]

I wonder has the War Effort team seen these two general improvement mods from KubiG? Seems like these mods should maybe just be integrated into the vanilla game.

Steam Workshop::Improved AI Research

steamcommunity.com

Steam Workshop::1939 Start Fixed

steamcommunity.com

 

[shijimi]

There are national focus descriptions that say TODO in non-English languages, when will this be corrected?
Especially in Japanese (I play in Japanese), this has been going on for the past two months, since 1.12 was released.

Is the dev team going to not address this?

 

[SeekTruthFromFx]

Dev diaries announcing bugfixes are the very best kind of dev diaries! Thank you for the patch. Might get me away from V3 and into HoI4 again....

 

[Gort11]

The USSR had 220 Divisions on the Western Front at the outbreak of Barbarossa I think.

It had an entire military of 201 divisions last time I did a test game, so it's already 19 short there. Then take into account the large numbers of troops it puts guarding extremely safe and low-value things (EG: The islands between the USSR and USA, portless provinces on the East coast of the USSR, cities thousands of miles into the interior of the USSR) and you're left with more like 60 divisions on the German border at Barbarossa.

 

[Amberle]

I wonder has the War Effort team seen these two general improvement mods from KubiG? Seems like these mods should maybe just be integrated into the vanilla game.

Steam Workshop::Improved AI Research

steamcommunity.com

Steam Workshop::1939 Start Fixed

steamcommunity.com

I can't praise him enough, doing excellent work for so long, and before nsb he had a fantastic soviet + mod.

 

[kettyo]

You can fix it yourself in the game settings before you start the game

I know it's possible to force them staying with Stalin but default ahistorical should not kill him all the time, that's the point.

 

[Gort11]

I know it's possible to force them staying with Stalin but default ahistorical should not kill him all the time, that's the point.

I'd be surprised if it actually does kill him all the time on ahistorical. It's probably more that each outcome has a chance of happening, and there are eight outcomes the AI is programmed to pick between, so the chances that it picks the historical outcome are likely quite slim.

Again though, if you feel the game is ruined if Stalin's not in charge of the USSR, you need to force that outcome in the pre-game settings. It's unlikely that the devs would want to patch "Stalin never dies on ahistorical" into the game after they spent time making the other paths.

 

[Panzerschreck]

Hi @Arheo,

here are certain things I suggested in the past:

* A "City Update" for Germany: Redistribution of Victory Points based mostly on city population and (to some extend) military and historical/symbolic importance. This also includes moving around some cities, as - for exampble - the city of Lübeck is ingame still located in Mecklemburg-Vorpommern in round about the area, where the city of Wismar is located. At least Lübeck should be moved correctly to Schleswig-Holstein.
* In this thread me and others talk about what Germany's crude oil production should look like. It also includes analysis of occupied and annexed territories (Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Poland). I later made a thread which goes into more detail on Polish oil production.
* In this thread me and others talk about tungsten production. While It starts with tungsten mining in The Raj and Burma, I also mention the tungesten production in Germany, Portugal and Spain, and how it is way of.

This leads me to a general resource balance issue: To some degree, tungsten and crude oil numbers in game represent the percental production an area or country had on the total world production. While this is certainly an approach to take, when you add new or increase existing resource depostits via event, national focus or decision, the whole math is now off, and logically you would have to readjust every number in the game accordingly, because the total world production now has changed. In some cases the production is also way off. In the last thread mentioned above, I make the following example:

At that time Poland produces 5 units of oil, which represents round about 5% of the world crude oil production. These 5 units represents round about 500.000 metric tons of crude oil Poland produced back then. Czechoslovakia, back then in the game, produces 3 units of oil, while they produced less then 30k tonnes per year in the period before WW2. So in one case 5 units represent a ration of 100k to 1 ingame unit, while in the other it represents 10k to 1 unit.

The same is true for tungsten: "E.g.: Portugal has 302 tungsten in 1936, which, applying a 10:1 ratio, reflect their yearly production some when between 1938 and 1939 (taken from the 1941 Mineral Yearbook, they produced 2810 tonnes in 1938 and 3815 tonnes in 1939). Germany on the other had produce 5 tungsten. The only tungsten production in Germany (as I know so far) was the Wolframitgrube Pechtelsgrün (Ger. Wikipedia), which produced some 2835 tonnes of tungsten between 1939 and 1944 (so ~ the same production Portugal made in 1938). This would apply to a yearly average production of 567 tonnes, which would mean 56 or 57 tungsten in game, when a 10:1 ratio is applied. Nonetheless Germany produces only 5 tungsten."

In other words - when this is not completely out of scope for the War Effort patches - maybe take a look on the resource distribution. Especially oil and tungsten is important, but also this like iron/steel is lacking in some areas, like Central and South America, which I noticed in the games I tried to play as Mexico.

 

[Timmysoboy]

The new fixed airwing sizes make sending air volunteers as a small nation or to a small nation extremely difficult. Can the system be changed to make sending air volunteers easier?

 

[Dardude]

The new fixed airwing sizes make sending air volunteers as a small nation or to a small nation extremely difficult. Can the system be changed to make sending air volunteers easier?

I agree. Reducing the size from 100 to 50 would be a help and would also help with supply needs on those small strategic islands.

 

[kettyo]

I'd be surprised if it actually does kill him all the time on ahistorical. It's probably more that each outcome has a chance of happening, and there are eight outcomes the AI is programmed to pick between, so the chances that it picks the historical outcome are likely quite slim.

Again though, if you feel the game is ruined if Stalin's not in charge of the USSR, you need to force that outcome in the pre-game settings. It's unlikely that the devs would want to patch "Stalin never dies on ahistorical" into the game after they spent time making the other paths.

Have started quite a lot of handsoff runs and there was always a rebellion against Stalin which deposed him. Might be something wrong with the handling of paranoia.

 

[Dardude]

Why are there no small airframe recon-focused aircraft any longer? Not wanting to sound sarcastic, but they were in the game until BBA and it's not like they weren't in use by every major power throughout the period covered by the game.

 

[ketil brambgard]

Why are there no small airframe recon-focused aircraft any longer? Not wanting to sound sarcastic, but they were in the game until BBA and it's not like they weren't in use by every major power throughout the period covered by the game.

Now you can convert any plane in recon one. You have to research the camera module and apply to the plane. A direct recon plane if the module is in the main definition slot (first one in the up left) and a war period recon plane if you put it in other of the slots. Basically, you can have a recon plane based in each of all air frames that you can research. The only consideration is that small airframes can't strangely be pure recon planes.
It would be nice to have that possibility.

 

[Dardude]

Now you can convert any plane in recon one. You have to research the camera module and apply to the plane. A direct recon plane if the module is in the main definition slot (first one in the up left) and a war period recon plane if you put it in other of the slots. Basically, you can have a recon plane based in each of all air frames that you can research. The only consideration is that small airframes can't strangely be pure recon planes.
It would be nice to have that possibility.

I know all of that. For small-frame aircraft there is no recon slot available in the first slot. So you end up with 100 plane recon squadrons which is ridiculous. That is why I used the term "recon-focused".

 

[Faction Less]

Is Paradox going to fix the bug where foreign opinions are stuck to +0 after you load in your save game?