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True, I'm not good enough to live on continental Europe :(

Haha!
Edit: Holy update batman! Seems either Ironhead is telling the truth, he sold out a packmate for some weird reason, or someone played him for unknown reasons.

He did not sell out a packmate, jonti would have screamed that at the top of his lungs. :p

Apparently, he just posted what another person pmed him.
What WD said originally. He was a pack, therefore is a wolf.
Are there not cultists in packs? Sometimes even sorcerers! :eek:
 
He did not sell out a packmate, jonti would have screamed that at the top of his lungs. :p
I'll vouch for that.

Apparently, he just posted what another person pmed him.
I'm still confused as to why Jonti still didn't argue more. This is not like him.
 
I'm still confused as to why someone would randomly (if it was random, maybe the seer is just playing his cards very close to his chest) PM someone this early in the game, with accurate information?

Also I'd think, that seen as Ironhead wasn't killed last night, he'll probably survive for awhile longer, as it's unlikely he's particularly important, and the wolves will likely go after others.

Shame we lost the GA so early. The doctor better know what he's doing
 
SUB. And that just means I'm a good target :rofl:
 
I am opposed to spies subbing.
 
:eek:o forgot what happened a few games ago; I pull that request out. :) But yeah, boy do I have a comment when this game ends! :p
 
:eek:o forgot what happened a few games ago; I pull that request out. :) But yeah, boy do I have a comment when this game ends! :p
Don't worry, your request did not reveal anything, that I'm aware of anyway, so you're clear. ;)
 
Don't worry, your request did not reveal anything, that I'm aware of anyway, so you're clear. ;)

;) Bleh, just when I was getting ready to really get into the game because of the weekend :D I get hunted. See you guys on the other side... and

OY Update the front page! :mad:
 
Ciryandor was my source. After I posted my analysis where I listed him as a suspect, he PM'd me his Night 1 spy report of jonti-h.

I have no other leads. No one has PM'd me anything else -- as well they shouldn't as I am not yet cleared in any way. Just because I publicized Ciryandor's PM doesn't mean I am a goodie.

Until we find someone to lynch:

VOTE WALRUS
 
Jonti's one action that can be analyzed:

his marty99 vote:

marty99 had 2 votes by J. Passerpartout and Kriszo
enkhuush had 2 votes by antracer and Lord Strange
ForzaA had 2 votes by joebthegreat and walrus
joebthegreat had 2 votes by snoopdogg and Ironhead 5

jonti-h voting for marty means marty is almost certainly not in the same pack, as that vote put marty in the lead and could have easily gotten him killed.

VOTE THE_HDK
 
This is getting ridiculous.

UNVOTE WALRUS

Ironhead 5 said:
THE_SPLIT said:
I got the same spy message on XXXX....
XXXX PM'd me and said he was a master of disguise, and disguising himself as a wolf. That explains your spy report -- but on the other hand, he may be lying to me and may REALLY be a wolf, and hoping that a JL will form around me that will protect him.

Until we know for sure, I think we should keep him alive.
Ironhead 5 said:
THE_SPLIT said:
Ironhead 5 said:
THE_SPLIT said:
Lemeard should be a lover according to my scan...
How did you scan him? If you scanned Lemeard, and he WAS the lover, then that means he did not sleep with anyone last night.

I think it is more likely that, if you scanned Lemeard, he came up as the lover because the real lover was sleeping with him last night.

So: who did you scan last night? And what did the result say?

I have a spy trait and i spyedd lemerad.. same thing with XXXX, I do not think spy traits are effected by master of disguise or lovers for that matter. Not to put you on between a rock and so on... but either you out XXXX or I will get some one to do that... we are losing villagers at a nastier pace then I would like... and if you are a goodie at this point your are tagged anyways....
The role description for the lover is pretty clear that if you scan them, and they are out sleeping with someone else, the report will come back with nothing. So to conclude that Lemeard is a lover without analyzing the result of your spying is pretty reckless; and you're asking me to take the action myself, so it is my ass flapping in the wind if you're wrong.

So I just ask for a little more info: who did you scan, and what was the result?
Ironhead 5 said:
THE_SPLIT said:
Maybe I can tell you my role as well....? Either you believe me or not..... XXXX is the same things as jonti...according to the the spy report.. Lemeard is the a lover or has been visiting one... take is as you must....or try to lynch me, I am sure no good thing will come from that...
It isn't that I don't trust you (I don't -- but no more than I distrust anyone in this game whose role is unconfirmed). But I want to make sure we are drawing the same conclusions based on the evidence.

Have you read the role description for lover? I am pretty sure they are unscannable while they are out. And when they are out, the scanner has no idea who their scan target was being visited by. So it feels like you are asking me to take a big risk based on poorly analyzed evidence.

I am asking you to tell me who you scanned, and what the result was. This does not ask you to reveal anything that could endanger you -- it is the same info that I revealed about jonti-h yesterday -- the contents of the spy report, and the person who was the subject of the spying.
THE_SPLIT said:
Mr I5 What makes you think I scanned some one? At this point I am a simple conduit, as you are..... trust me... or burn... the choice is your and unfortunately as I am narrating thins to you.....

Either we believe THE_SPLIT (even though he refuses to present evidence; and claims he is simply a conduit, yet wants ME to be the spokesman) and we lynch Lemeard for being lover.

Or we don't believe THE_SPLIT and we lynch him for trying to hustle a hustler.

VOTE THE_SPLIT
 
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