Werewolf Lite CCCVI: The Second Slesvig War

[alxeu]

Good game. My first attempt at analysis and playing the game, and I die. Who sent in the order on me?

 

[aedan777]

Not sure if you are sarcastic, but in case you aren't.
On the 18th of April 1864 the Prussians stormed the fortifications with 40,000 men; there were 12,000 Danish defenders in the fortifications and 15,000 reinforcements on Als. It was a slaughter with whole Danish regiments wiped out---especially the regiments fighting in Redoubts I and II and the trenches between them were pretty much wiped out. During the battle the 8th Brigade heroically charged which let the remnants of the defenders escape to Als. As a fun fact the father of world known author Karen Blixen fought in the battle as part of the 8th Brigade---mentally he pretty much died that day. On the 18th of April the fortifications couldn't be compared to Sevastopol anymore either; the Prussian cannons had almost completely destroyed them at that time.

It was an unwinnable battle which from a military standpoint never should have been fought, but the government in Copenhagen had ordered the fortifications to be defended no matter the casualties. In the end Denmark would have been far better off if we had retreated and let the Germans storm empty fortifications.
It would therefore feel very strange to have Denmark win the battle just because 4 infiltrators were lynched. By the way the events I referenced, like the surveilance bridge between the two towers of Broager Church or the destruction of Dybbøl Mill, were real events.

Yeah, historically it wouldn't make sense to have it any other way, but it does question what we accomplished from an RP perspective, since had we lost to the wolves the Prussians would've won... which they did anyways. My comment was sarcasm.

 

[jonti-h]

Hope people enjoyed the game and the story I had running through the updates; I think I managed to have it quite coherent even though I made it up as I went. Felt that the siege couldn't end different than in reality even with 4 ahistorical infiltrators which is why I wrote the 18th of April epiloge. The seer was a real general, but all wolf names (Detlev von Liliencron was a real person though) and all names for dead villagers I made up---they all are plausible names though.

The names of the surviving villagers all are names of actual soldiers who fell on th 18th of April or dies due to injuries obtained on that faithful day. The little descriptions of them the seer and the surviving villagers are also true. I only got the idea to grab my books on the war---and especially the book on that battle---today; do people think I should have used it all along find names instead of making them up?

Thank you for GMing Wagon, good game village, Madchem, Dex and Nikk.

 

[Rovsea]

Thank you for GMing Wagon, good game village, Madchem, Dex and Nikk.

Hey jonti, why don't you try and insert some reason into your posts.

 

[aedan777]

My comments were more to poke fun at the 'victory' of the village rather than actual complaints in case I'm being unclear. It was a good game.

 

[jonti-h]

Hey jonti, why don't you try and insert some reason into your posts.

What is unreasonable about thanking the GM for GMing?
Oh and next time you want a mook, ask someone else, a simple thank you would have been fine.
I took the death you were too chicken for, so don't start one Rovvers.

 

[Rovsea]

What is unreasonable about thanking the GM for GMing?
Oh and next time you want a mook, ask someone else, a simple thank you would have been fine.

What is unreasonable is going out of your way to thank every single player except Xarkan.

 

[Cymsdale]

If you don't think I know how to lose that's your prerogative.
If you want to insult me that is also your prerogative.
If you think your bad choice of hunt is great again your prerogative.
If you think that yelling at me will get me off my shit list then well, you'll learn.

Point is you had lost and chose the least likely seer, and killed me out of spite.

And hey, you are the loser. Again.
I "lost" in name only because you decided to kill me.
You lost because you were completely outplayed by everyone else.
Loser.

You really are a sore loser. I second the grow the fuck up.

You spew vomit to make people feel bad if they ever vote for you, or ever hunt you. That's how you get a high win record, pure survival because too many players in this game fear to kill you out of fear how you will react. I guess it's one way to win a lot of games, but it makes the game quite unpleasant. I hope more players start to see through it.

You died in a werewolf game. Get over it.

 

[jonti-h]

What is unreasonable is going out of your way to thank every single player except Xarkan.

He lashed out at the least likely seer, who was put in the line of fire by someone too frit to do their own dirty work.

 

[al-Aziz]

Yeah, historically it wouldn't make sense to have it any other way, but it does question what we accomplished from an RP perspective, since had we lost to the wolves the Prussians would've won... which they did anyways. My comment was sarcasm.

It does make life feel a little desolate. But hey, that's probably how the Danes felt too. Too bad, I really wanted to stop WWI and WWII and prevent the Holocaust.

 

[jonti-h]

You really are a sore loser. I second the grow the fuck up.

You spew vomit to make people feel bad if they ever vote for you, or ever hunt you. That's how you get a high win record, pure survival because too many players in this game fear to kill you out of fear how you will react. I guess it's one way to win a lot of games, but it makes the game quite unpleasant. I hope more players start to see through it.

You died in a werewolf game. Get over it.

I hardly ever survive.
I got a bit annoyed at someone killing me on the verge of victory, when I was highly unlikely to be an important goodie.
Soz, your argument falls at the first hurdle.

GO look at the players I learned to play around, then whine about me.

I'll see your "grow the fuck up" and raise you "learn to play"

EDIT: LOL if you really think people on an internet forum game devoted to killing each other are scared of getting shouted at. Just LOL.

EDIT2: I'd have called that a dick move whoever was hunted, it's not just about me. For all your spiel about me being a sore loser, one thing I won't do is deprive someone of a win if I know it's hopeless.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Yeah, historically it wouldn't make sense to have it any other way, but it does question what we accomplished from an RP perspective, since had we lost to the wolves the Prussians would've won... which they did anyways. My comment was sarcasm.

Yeah I know it doesn't seem to have accomplished anything---on the other hand you died honerable deaths with at least one of them also being heroic and your names are being remembered.

My comments were more to poke fun at the 'victory' of the village rather than actual complaints in case I'm being unclear. It was a good game.

I know.

It does make life feel a little desolate. But hey, that's probably how the Danes felt too. Too bad, I really wanted to stop WWI and WWII and prevent the Holocaust.

I think desolate is too small a word to describe the state of Denmark after that war; we learned in the really hard way that when Germany comes we cannot do a thing and that our politicians shouldn't be completely stubborn and out of touch with reality. We didn't step out of the shadow of that war until at least 1991 and you could argue we still partly are in it. So even though it would be good to stop WWI, WWII and the Holocaust in the end it simply felt too artificial and strange to have the siege lifted; when writing the ending this was the only thing that felt right.



Also I found some pictures/drawings of the 'survivors'.

Corporal Rasmus Schmidt Nellemann

Major Ernst Schau

General Georg Daniel Gerlach


Sadly I have been unable to find a picture/drawing of Niels Christian Larsen.

 

[jonti-h]

Thank you for the history lesson Wagon, that was interesting

 

[al-Aziz]

Hey, downer episodes are fun, eh? At least we died as martyrs for Allah for Denmark.

Unless you were lynched (like me) by your fellow Danes, remembered only in the hearts of your countrymen an accursed German.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Hey, downer episodes are fun, eh? At least we died as martyrs for Allah for Denmark.

Unless you were lynched (like me) by your fellow Danes, remembered only in the hearts of your countrymen an accursed German.

You weren't lynched though; you were escorted across Als Sound to Sønderborg since a fortification isn't a place for a woman (in 1864). You most likely survived the war as the only one besides Nautilu.

 

[al-Aziz]

You weren't lynched though; you were escorted across Als Sound to Sønderborg since a fortification isn't a place for a woman (in 1864). You most likely survived the war as the only one besides Nautilu.

Oh, that's right. Thanks for a great game.

 

[Rovsea]

He lashed out at the least likely seer, who was put in the line of fire by someone too frit to do their own dirty work.

Actually, Nautilu wanted to specifically test out your loyalty. He hadn't scanned you, and your reaction to the proposed outing could give information. Interestingly enough, when Xarkan mentioned that he thought the outing could be fake, I was about to actually back you up, and prevent the wolves from accidentally lynching seer by making myself a bigger target. As it turns out, Xarkan immediately thereafter posted something about there being too many people alive for a fake outing to work, and I was able to edit my post into something harmless before anybody noticed.

 

[madchemist]

Good game. My first attempt at analysis and playing the game, and I die. Who sent in the order on me?

I can assure you those two events were unconnected. You were hunted for being the JL spokesman.

Also, I hadn't been kidding about having the hunt order on jonti at the time of my outing. I was convinced I had been scanned, and thought that this post

What about EURO's voting Ark at deadline, and Rovsea doing likewise?

was jonti toying with me, knowing that I was a wolf and trying to gauge my opinion on a couple of players. Hence why I gave a very weak defense of both Rovsea and al-Aziz and why I was voting for my packmate the whole day.

Turned out I was right about the being scanned bit, but had the scanner wrong.

 

[Dexander]

Thanks for Wagon GMning

And this was my first WW game ever

Just curious, did Nautilu scan me or was it just luck?

 

[madchemist]

Thanks for Wagon GMning

And this was my first WW game ever

Just curious, did Nautilu scan me or was it just luck?

Well, they said in the thread that you were scanned, so I'm guessing you really were. Scans must have been something like: EURO, marty, me, aedan, you, Rovsea.

Also, I forgot to thank the GM. Thanks Wagon!