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Johan said:
- A ruler can now press the claims of vassals, if the ruler lacks a claim of his own and there is a vassal fighting the same enemy with a claim.
- A ruler can now press the claims of courtiers, if the ruler lacks a claim of his own and there are no vassal fighting the same enemy with claims.

No you can't. My spy master had a claim to the Duchy of Ulster. Being the nice guy that I am, I slaughtered said Duke to bring him into the glorious Kingdom of Wales. I could not demand the Duchy title for my Spy Master. Had to settle for cash. Total waste.
 
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Grosshaus said:
Was this condition filled? (to be honest I don't even quite know what it means)
It means the following:

Situation:
- you are the King of X and have no claim against the Count of Evil
- you have a courtier "Mr Landless" who does have a claim against the Count of Evil
- you have a vassal who is the Duke of Y and *does* have a claim against the Count of Evil

If you go to war with the Count of Evil you can press the claim of Mr Landless IF AND ONLY IF your Duke of Y vassal is not also at war with the Count of Evil. If the Duke of Y is at war with Count Evil then Mr Landless is destined to remain true to his surname.
 
MrT said:
It means the following:

Situation:
- you are the King of X and have no claim against the Count of Evil
- you have a courtier "Mr Landless" who does have a claim against the Count of Evil
- you have a vassal who is the Duke of Y and *does* have a claim against the Count of Evil

If you go to war with the Count of Evil you can press the claim of Mr Landless IF AND ONLY IF your Duke of Y vassal is not also at war with the Count of Evil. If the Duke of Y is at war with Count Evil then Mr Landless is destined to remain true to his surname.

But... if I'm not at war with the Count of Evil... uh... how would I press his claim?
 
Duuk said:
But... if I'm not at war with the Count of Evil... uh... how would I press his claim?
You would have to declare war on the Count of Evil and hope that the Duke of Y decides to stay out of it. You have somewhat less control over the situation since it's really the Duke of Y's call whether to DOW or not.

This is fairly reasonable since a high ranking noble with land holdings would take precedence over a landless courtier in a case where both have the claim.
 
OH I GET IT.

Sorry. Got lost in the explainantion. But none of my vassals had a claim to the title "Duke of Ulster" I just couldn't force it. Which was a big bummer to me, since I wanted to grab a few Irish provinces.
 
I see this got marked as WAD.

It's not. I had no claim and no one else with a claim (from my lands) was at war with the Duke, so I should have been able to install my courtier as Duke and count, since he had claims. I could not. Wasn't given the option.

So unless "not working at all" is the same as "WAD", I think this one needs to be revisted :D
 
MrT said:
It means the following:

Situation:
- you are the King of X and have no claim against the Count of Evil
- you have a courtier "Mr Landless" who does have a claim against the Count of Evil
- you have a vassal who is the Duke of Y and *does* have a claim against the Count of Evil

If you go to war with the Count of Evil you can press the claim of Mr Landless IF AND ONLY IF your Duke of Y vassal is not also at war with the Count of Evil. If the Duke of Y is at war with Count Evil then Mr Landless is destined to remain true to his surname.

This may be a stupid question, but...

If I have no claim against the Count of Evil - how do I go to war with him, in order to press the claims of my courtier?
 
Grosshaus said:
Were you or were you not at war with the duke, from your earlier post I got the impression only your vassal was at war.

I was.
 
Freodin said:
This may be a stupid question, but...

If I have no claim against the Count of Evil - how do I go to war with him, in order to press the claims of my courtier?

I guess the only way is to have been honoring an alliance or vassalage.