289) FEEDBACK: Morale discrepancies after loading

[unmerged(14031)]

Morale discrepancies after loading

This happened today when I was fighting a war.

So I started a war with a pagan nation, an autosave was created just before the two armies started manuver/advance portion of the battle. I won overwhelmingly. I went on and conquered every province of that nation but CTD occured.

I loaded up the autosave. So the first battle begins again, however, i lose overwhelmingly. Not that I lost all my men but my army's morale simply falls to 0 in like 3 secs. I didnt lose many men at all but the entire army's morale was at 0 and I cant fight any more. I ended up loading a previous save.

I have seen the same thing happening to the AI as well just after loadings.

 

[kurtbrian]

can anyone else confirm this?

and are you sure its nott just a matter of random battle results?

 

[unmerged(14031)]

can anyone else confirm this?

and are you sure its nott just a matter of random battle results?

I in fact loaded numerous times just to make sure and it's the exact same result every time.

I lose only about 500 men but my morale goes down to 0 in several seconds and I lose the battle.

The thing is, before the CTD and load, I won overwhelmingly, with 6000 out of my original 9000 remaining while wiping out the enemy's 7000.

 

[Cat Lord]

I think I read something about this (about being very minor and wouldn't be fix)...

Is it still happening in 1.02 ?

Cat

 

[unmerged(23737)]

I think I read something about this (about being very minor and wouldn't be fix)...

Is it still happening in 1.02 ?

Cat

Yes it happens still in 1.02!
I mobilized two regiments and merged them in one province, then saved for testing.
I declared war on a pagan and attacked them, no problem easy victory(Morale=100%).
Ok then i quit and reload the save game with the regiments mobilized.
I attack the pagans again and have a horrible defeat, though morale=100%!
This is easy repeatable.

BTW the savegame shows this for the regiments:

morale = 0.500

First of all i don't know if this is equal to 100% and only one morale entry for all regiments.
Perhaps it's the same thing as the issue with advances which wasn't saved for regiments in 1.01!?

 

[Cat Lord]

BTW the savegame shows this for the regiments:

morale = 0.500

First of all i don't know if this is equal to 100% and only one morale entry for all regiments.

Mmmh, no, 100%, if the variable is a float used like the other in the game, would be morale = 1.000. So it seems that this pagan do not have 50% in morale (OTOH, if you are talking about your regiment, than there is a problem, because then their morale is nopt 100% which shouldn't be right if they are fresh, me thinks).

Perhaps it's the same thing as the issue with advances which wasn't saved for regiments in 1.01!?

No at all, if you have a morale = 0.500 entry, then the morale seems to be recorded (badly or rightly, and is it read properly, that's another problem). The tech of unit was not recorded at all in 1.01

Cat

 

[unmerged(23737)]

Mmmh, no, 100%, if the variable is a float used like the other in the game, would be morale = 1.000. So it seems that this pagan do not have 50% in morale (OTOH, if you are talking about your regiment, than there is a problem, because then their morale is nopt 100% which shouldn't be right if they are fresh, me thinks).
Cat

Yes it's my regiment, sorry that i explained it not quite clear!

 

[Spruce]

I'm not sure, but it looks similar to the negative morale issue I've seen,

troops getting stuck at negative morale and they never get back positive,