86) Feedback: Small Castle Bug?

[jmschaub]

Small Castle Bug?

I've gotten two messages for different provinces that "Small Castle happened to us"...yet no small castle appears the hill fort remains.

BTW....is this the only way to improve the castle? because no option to build comes up for castles

 

[unmerged(23737)]

You have to build it as other province improvements!

BTW i think there's a bug(or is it WAD?) with the hill fort.
In provinces where is no castle at all and if you get the advance hill fort it is immediately built. You have not to wait until it's completed(12 months i think) and either you have not to pay for it.
Concerning to the provinceimprovements.txt:

...
hill_fort =
{
	cost = { gold = 200 prestige = 0 piety = 0 }
	construction_time = 12
	required_advances = { hill_fort = yes }
	upgradeable = yes 

	lasting_effects =
	{
		supportable = 100
		percentage_score = { gold = 0.98 }
	}
}
...

it should cost 200 gold and take 12 months to complete.

Another thing i've noticed concerning castles is that some tool tips are wrong.
Tool tip for small castle if you want to build it is "Supportable Troops modifier +25000 ". If it's completed and you look at the "supply limit" in that province, you will see in the tool tip "small castle +250"! And in the provinceimprovements.txt you will find under small castle "supportable = 250".
What's wrong or right?
Perhaps the same for the other castle types!

 

[jmschaub]

i'm guessing 250 since 25000 is unheard of in that timeframe

 

[unmerged(23737)]

i'm guessing 250 since 25000 is unheard of in that timeframe

Think of the 200000 Mongols which are on their way! :rofl:
No no i think you're right. It's only a bit confusing!

 

[unmerged(23737)]

BTW i think there's a bug(or is it WAD?) with the hill fort.
In provinces where is no castle at all and if you get the advance hill fort it is immediately built. You have not to wait until it's completed(12 months i think) and either you have not to pay for it.
Concerning to the provinceimprovements.txt:

...
hill_fort =
{
	cost = { gold = 200 prestige = 0 piety = 0 }
	construction_time = 12
	required_advances = { hill_fort = yes }
	upgradeable = yes 

	lasting_effects =
	{
		supportable = 100
		percentage_score = { gold = 0.98 }
	}
}
...

it should cost 200 gold and take 12 months to complete.

Another thing i've noticed concerning castles is that some tool tips are wrong.
Tool tip for small castle if you want to build it is "Supportable Troops modifier +25000 ". If it's completed and you look at the "supply limit" in that province, you will see in the tool tip "small castle +250"! And in the provinceimprovements.txt you will find under small castle "supportable = 250".
What's wrong or right?
Perhaps the same for the other castle types!

Can someone a beta or mod confirm that this is wad or not?

 

[Grosshaus]

BTW i think there's a bug(or is it WAD?) with the hill fort.
In provinces where is no castle at all and if you get the advance hill fort it is immediately built. You have not to wait until it's completed(12 months i think) and either you have not to pay for it.

I don't quite understand what you are trying to say. By "you have not to wait" do you mean "you must wait" or "you don't have to wait"?

Anyways I've had a province with to forts whatsoever and had to manually build the hill fort , it took 12 months and 200 gold as was it was supposed to. I don't remember if the province had the advance when I conquered it or not, but even if it didn't that kind of a bug would have propably hit the AI as well.

Another thing i've noticed concerning castles is that some tool tips are wrong.
Tool tip for small castle if you want to build it is "Supportable Troops modifier +25000 ". If it's completed and you look at the "supply limit" in that province, you will see in the tool tip "small castle +250"! And in the provinceimprovements.txt you will find under small castle "supportable = 250".
What's wrong or right?
Perhaps the same for the other castle types!

This seems like it might be wrong, although I can't say I know how the troop modifiers work overall. Might it be possible that there is a difference meant to be between modifier and the actual effect?

 

[unmerged(23737)]

So let me explain it better...i've conquered a pagan province, where no hill fort is built(no icon on map). So then a little time later the advance hill fort spread to this province and the icon appears and as i take a look at the province there is a hill fort. No need to build it!
I hope this explanation is better!!!

 

[Grosshaus]

This needs to be confirmed by somebody else before reporting further.

 

[Cat Lord]

Any occurence of other magically build castles ?

Cat

 

[jmschaub]

i haven't seen this happen in 1.02