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Tilarium

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So we know that if we have a levie raised for to long our nobles get upset. Here's the problem I'm hoping someone knows how to nip in the bud. A liege-lord can raise the levies of his vassel and has no such restrictions. I know this how? Because the Holy Roman Emperor raised my levies and marched them off to war.. with my character no less. This was in 1068. My game is currently 1073 now, that's 5 years my army has been marching, first to claim Mechlenburg from the Pagans there. Then to stop a revolt in Bologna (walking past the battles of our Hungarian friends as they fight for Wallachia). Now that we have Bologna secured we marched back to help our Hungarian friends claim Wallachia. This is really ridiculous, 5 years he's had my levies and 5 years he's had my character, the Count of Mentz.

So... there a way to make the vassels get upset at the leige-lord for taking their levies for to long? Maybe a diplomacy option to have the leige-lord release your levies and their leaders? Something tip effect this problem.
 
Is it modifying his relationship with you (the count) and him?

I would think that if he raised them for long enough that someone would be angry enough to plot the break up of the HRE...
 
It was. that's likely why Bologna tried to gain their independence. Problem with that is that each time someone tries he'll just hold the other armies longer to put down the new revolt. I got so frustrated I stopped that game and started a new one up in Wales where I was the boss!
 
It is even worse when my Duke is leading troops that were raised by my King and my duke dies fighting for my king. Leaving my 2 year old son to rule and plenty of hungry vassals that want to take over or break free.
 
It is even worse when my Duke is leading troops that were raised by my King and my duke dies fighting for my king. Leaving my 2 year old son to rule and plenty of hungry vassals that want to take over or break free.
I don't know what to say.. That's the life of a vassal.
 
I seem to remember that CK 1 used to ask you if you wanted to comply and if you refused then your liege got an automatic CB on you. Maybe that would be a better system?
 
Above poster has it right, while you are right that this is a vassals lot in life, it's also possible for him to say no and face the consequences, that is, if the liege is strong enough to make any.
 
I didn't have much need for my levies and so I wouldn't have minded the Emperor holding them for 5+ years if I was able to send my marshal or one of my sons to lead the army. Every Count and Duke in the Holy Roman Empire was offer fighting for over 5 years, that's frustrating.
 
Above poster has it right, while you are right that this is a vassals lot in life, it's also possible for him to say no and face the consequences, that is, if the liege is strong enough to make any.

The consequences ought to be pretty severe; I remember never bothering to answer a call to arms and never facing any penalties for it.