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joel said:
Not entirely GK.

The US has its gearing events that increase its usable IC prior to war. IIRC the peace penalty itself merely halves the required IC required for consumer goods. The gearing itself however doesn't change back.
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No. The peacetime modifier is a direct negative modifier on total IC available, which is applied only when at peace. In one SP game I played, US IC went back to being crap after annexing Germany.

From the WIKI
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type = peacetime_ic_mod value = X(%) # Additive, and ONLY applied when a country is at peace. Default base value is 100%.

The lowering of consumer goods when at war is a seperate, unrelated factor.

And the peacetime penalty itself will depend on exactly how many gearing events Major has triggered off- for the US it starts at -75%, taking paris should give +25%, and because of Iceland, it should at about -40%. Not too much of a penalty for the US, but better than nothing.

Anyways I'm at work, so I can't test what effect editing out the USA tag from the Allied alliance, and the current war with the Axis will have. But I think Mike will end up with a peacetime CG penalty, but will retain the 'bonus' of having no negative gearing effects.
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You'll need to edit the US out of the Allied alliance and out of the war. There are seperate entries for alliances and for wars. Do both and it won't stuff up. Also edit the US puppets- Liberia and the Phillipines.

And no, the peace time modifier applies all times someone is at peace, regardless of whether they declare war, then make peace. Unless Major has so much belligerence that he has triggered all the gear up events.
 
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major ball said:
I have just about had enough of listening to you justify everyone of your actions and win at all cost attitude. You didnt take my word when I said UK wouldnt attack from Russian territory in the other game why should I take your word now. Everyone knows you did it to take advantage of Russian troops deployments. Its was a simple request made difficult by your refusal to move your spy ships. No one accused you of cheating but you make a big deal over nothing.
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There is a big difference in the situation major im not attacking through the UK like the UK did to me through you. And no Everyone agrees with ME major that attacking through nuetruals is plain wrong and a breach of any NAP, which you admitted. But good of you to bring it up again in a pointless debate.

Im not asking you to take my word for it. If you need proof go check the chat logs. Dont take my word for it you can take joels word for it. If thats not good enough for you tough. I said i would move my ships out of the central channel for awhile to help with any battles your having there.

In future how about you explain to me in the game why you want me to move my ships. I probably owuld have responded alot better to a decent reason instead of to move them just becuase you want them moved.

An lightened up you big sook. You hound me all the time when i miake mistakes and errors, goes with the territory. If you cant take it then dont dish it out.
 
Gjerg Kastrioti said:
No. The peacetime modifier is a direct negative modifier on total IC available, which is applied only when at peace. In one SP game I played, US IC went back to being crap after annexing Germany.
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I stand corrected :)

Only 1 gearing event has fired - that due to Paris falling. Iceland was part of a session we quit and re-loaded to avoid some issues.

You're right about Liberia and the Phillipenes of course, I'd forgotten about them. I'm sure Munster will be able to edit this - it's pretty simple to do.
 
Gjerg Kastrioti said:
No. The peacetime modifier is a direct negative modifier on total IC available, which is applied only when at peace. In one SP game I played, US IC went back to being crap after annexing Germany.

From the WIKI
Code: 
type = peacetime_ic_mod value = X(%) # Additive, and ONLY applied when a country is at peace. Default base value is 100%.

The lowering of consumer goods when at war is a seperate, unrelated factor.

And the peacetime penalty itself will depend on exactly how many gearing events Major has triggered off- for the US it starts at -75%, taking paris should give +25%, and because of Iceland, it should at about -40%. Not too much of a penalty for the US, but better than nothing.



You'll need to edit the US out of the Allied alliance and out of the war. There are seperate entries for alliances and for wars. Do both and it won't stuff up. Also edit the US puppets- Liberia and the Phillipines.

And no, the peace time modifier applies all times someone is at peace, regardless of whether they declare war, then make peace. Unless Major has so much belligerence that he has triggered all the gear up events.
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Why couldnt Germany just sue for peace and i accept. Or does it hav to be ther other way around as im not the leader of the alliance.
 
mike8472 said:
Why couldnt Germany just sue for peace and i accept. Or does it hav to be ther other way around as im not the leader of the alliance.
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That would work. You could then leave the allies seperately. Liberia and the Phillipines would probably stay allied though.

Damn, wasting my lunch break.
 
Gjerg Kastrioti said:
That would work. You could then leave the allies seperately. Liberia and the Phillipines would probably stay allied though.

Damn, wasting my lunch break.
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Well this seems easiest option. The axis just dont attack the philliphines or liberia thats all. Hope is dosnt screw my IC though as im on 50% at present and want to stay like that intil the next gearing which should happen soon anyway.
 
mike8472 said:
Well this seems easiest option. The axis just dont attack the philliphines or liberia thats all. Hope is dosnt screw my IC though as im on 50% at present and want to stay like that intil the next gearing which should happen soon anyway.
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So me using the mighty Liberian army to invade and re-occupy France is out of the question then?

Looks like I'm back to the drawing board for my plans for 1940 then...
 
major ball said:
How about I just Dow Russia get it over and done with.
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We all know how that will end...
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major ball said:
How about I just Dow Russia get it over and done with.
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Yea go on i would love to see the AI belt up on you as well, seems joel is doing a good job. :rolleyes:

Seriously you got nothing to complain about. You got vinchy france, you got denmark you have tried to invade UK in winter and only just lost. You have still 15 months till the Russian war where the UK is under constant threat. Thats 15 months to invade the UK in summer, take gibralter, take africa and the middle east.

Thats 15 months of you guys having good fun and lots of battles, as for who will win, well joel only just hanging on from what i hear but there the best kind of battles.

All you need to do is stop worry about me, my ships or what ever else you think im doing becuse your complelty wrong about it.

Kick back and enjoy your own nation and let me play my nation the way i want. I dont want to hear complaints about my ships just like all our other games people dont complain about it. So get on with the game and enjoy it.
 
mike8472 said:
Yea go on i would love to see the AI belt up on you as well, seems joel is doing a good job. :rolleyes:

Seriously you got nothing to complain about. You got vinchy france, you got denmark you have tried to invade UK in winter and only just lost. You have still 15 months till the Russian war where the UK is under constant threat. Thats 15 months to invade the UK in summer, take gibralter, take africa and the middle east.

Thats 15 months of you guys having good fun and lots of battles, as for who will win, well joel only just hanging on from what i hear but there the best kind of battles.

All you need to do is stop worry about me, my ships or what ever else you think im doing becuse your complelty wrong about it.

Kick back and enjoy your own nation and let me play my nation the way i want. I dont want to hear complaints about my ships just like all our other games people dont complain about it. So get on with the game and enjoy it.
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Im nearly shedding a tear for you here.
 
You around joel looks like our other game is off tonight Mighty cant play "Again". So if your free we can play 4 player game. 7pm?
 
Alrighty. Maybe get munster to edit the save. Much as having the USA in the war would aid me immensely, and much as they have grown more interventionist after an attempted sealion, I doubt it is good for the game.

I'm sure you or Munster know how to edit the save. If not, post here and I'll let you know. He also may want to load in SP as Germany to fire the Denmark capitulation event.

Seeya at 7pm.
 
I dont want to be in the war now would wreak th game. Im not sitting here all this time and taking all this crap for a quick easy game. I want to strangle these two nice and slow like a annaconda. These two dont derserve a quick death this time.
 
Oh well guys. Good game while it lasted. Pity about the last bug. I guess maybe the UK fleet got wedged in side by side in the straights of sicily and simply couldn't get free...

Well played to Major and Munster in France especially.

But as we all know, the map ended looking more favourable for the UK than the Axis... Down to one province Germany... tsk tsk....

:p
 
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