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This might well have been asked before, but a quick search yielded me no clear results, so here goes.

If I play as Aegon during Aegon's conquest can I make Baratheon become Lord Paramount of the stormlands and adopt house durrandon's banner like in the books? On my first try when I conquered the stormlands nothing happened and he remained plain old Baratheon. If it's possible, mind giving me the exact conditions for this to happen? I'm a sucker for making sure everything is "correct" to start off.

On a similar note, any events to change the iron islands from hoare to greyjoy and the reach from gardener to tyrell or do I have to do this manually?
 
If Argilac is killed during the war, there will be an event within a few days that fires and makes Orys LP of the Stormlands, forces a marriage to Argella and makes him a 'real' Baratheon.


The Iron Islands and Reach I believe you have to do manually, or so I always have. Same with Riverlands to the Tully though occasionally he will ask for the title from you.
 
Okay, thanks. Do I need to legitimize him or not? Also, during my wars it seems like it is possible for a king to just surrender when i come for his lands. If Argilac surrenders the event never fires?

Also, i believe Argilac has male heirs. Do they also need to die or can the event fire anyway? Same goes for the daughter, she's already married, will this marriage just get overridden even if her husband is alive?
 
Kripox said:
Okay, thanks. Do I need to legitimize him or not? Also, during my wars it seems like it is possible for a king to just surrender when i come for his lands. If Argilac surrenders the event never fires?

Also, i believe Argilac has male heirs. Do they also need to die or can the event fire anyway? Same goes for the daughter, she's already married, will this marriage just get overridden even if her husband is alive?
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That's why I always do Argilac first. The first couple rulers will generally fight, but after you've absorbed a few, the rest surrender.

Argilac doesn't start with male heirs, so that's not an issue. If he has somehow fathered a few, I'm not sure how it works; you can always console kill them to be safe. His daughter's marriage gets annulled by the event, and she is immediately remarried to Orys.
 
Don't take any of the decisions to legitimize him or make him a full Targ, they'll interfere with the event. I always follow the historical route (Hoare -> Durrandon -> Gardener [ALWAYS wipe them out; hate their flag and the historical Tyrell makes a great hand of the King] -> Lannister -> Arryn -> Stark -> Martell) and I've never run into an issue with Argilac having an heir or anything. He and his wife are simply too old. Once in a while Argella gives birth to a little Durrandon boy or girl after being married to Orys, but IMO that makes for an interesting role play!
 
queermobile said:
Gardener [ALWAYS wipe them out; hate their flag and the historical Tyrell makes a great hand of the King]
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Aren't the Gardeners way too numerous to wipe out? Same goes to the Hoares, they never just sit in a castle and wait to be imprisoned, they all lead different scattered armies.
 
ParrotGuy said:
Aren't the Gardeners way too numerous to wipe out? Same goes to the Hoares, they never just sit in a castle and wait to be imprisoned, they all lead different scattered armies.
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There's only a few Hoares running around. I typically imprison and kill the sons and peace out normally with Harren and either banish or execute. Same with Gardeners, though it requires a good deal of patience to make sure all the relatives are in Highgarden when you burn it to the ground. I quite frequently have to execute 20+ little Gardener children.
 
queermobile said:
Don't take any of the decisions to legitimize him or make him a full Targ, they'll interfere with the event. I always follow the historical route (Hoare -> Durrandon -> Gardener [ALWAYS wipe them out; hate their flag and the historical Tyrell makes a great hand of the King] -> Lannister -> Arryn -> Stark -> Martell) and I've never run into an issue with Argilac having an heir or anything. He and his wife are simply too old. Once in a while Argella gives birth to a little Durrandon boy or girl after being married to Orys, but IMO that makes for an interesting role play!
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Why do you hate the Gardeners so much? The vassals that I always have problems with are the Lannisters, whilst the Starks always basically just stick in the North, and the rest oscillate (so fairly accurate to lore I suppose). Their flag isn't that bad - have you seen some of the lesser Houses flags?
 
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