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Loving the game so far, but just a couple of quesitons need clarified: (Currently im in Ireland as duke of Muster and Meath)

1. Advances - they seem to spread to induvidual counties- is that correct? On the advance screen, it looks like i am focusing on one from the three different areas, but others seem to spread from other places, correct? Also, the higher the level the harder/longer it takes, correct? And some like thought and religious stuff son't really seem to explain what happens when you get them, what affect do they have? When I discover an advance do all my demenses get it?

2. Does being a king give any special bonuses or help "bully" dukes and counts ion diplomacy?

3. Im the Duke of Munster and Meath, but only personally own demenses in munster, do I get any money from being duke of Meath? What is the beneift for me? Should I give the title of duke of Meath to one of my sons?

4. Advisors, seems like I have a lot except for bishops, how do I get them?

5. Piety - what good is it? I haven't really seemed to have much in the way of papal or religious interaction in the first 60 years. Does it keep my peasants happy?

6. Marriage - I assume this is right but thought I would check. My hier came of age (16 correct?) and went to find him a wife. Do I want to find the best qualified one, meaning, will it affect the quality of children he has?

7. Alliances - how many can I have and what is it dependant on?
 
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I suppose I can answer some.

1. Advances are county specific. Say in one of your counties you get the advance for the tile factory. It will spread to your other counties eventually along it's borders and then beyond.

Also the advances screen affects your capital only. If you get romanesqe vaulting this way for instance, it will be in your capital, but then spread as outlined above.

Now for the bottom tier of advances, I'm not really sure what most of that stuff does. When I play, I research the advances with known bonuses (loyalty bonus and the like).

There is a great wealth of knowledge here as well.

6. Marriages. Yes you are generally correct with your assumption. However, sometimes you may have to sacrifice your kid to another ruler's stupid/ugly/sick kid to grab a title. It may take a generation, but if you can't afford a war, this is another, significantly cheaper option.
 
Thanks Jimmy.

As far as #6 - that would go for your daughters only right? I did try to marry my daughter off to an irish count who has no kids, but they wouldn't take wither girl, my relation was only 75, so maybe thats why. They were failry talented too.
 
2) Claims and gold are inherited.

3) No, you don't get any gold from owning a 2nd duke-title. You get gold from your demesne and from your vassals (if you haven't set scutage to zero). You do get prestige from having an extra duke-title. If you give the duke-title to one of your sons, he will become independent. So only do it if you want to rollplay.

4) You can only appoint church-eductated male courtiers as a your diocese-bishop (and they need to have the same religion as your ruler). If you don't have one, then sooner or later an event will fire that gives you one.

5) The higher your piety, the quicker your reputation improves. If you have positive piety bishop-vassals get a monthly loyalty-bonus. If there is a crusade going on the ruler with the highest piety can become the Papal Controller.

7) You can have only one ally at the same time. Though sometimes you get 2 offers on the same day and if you both accept them, you can have 2 allies.
 
1) There are two ways you can get a new tech advance. One is to have it spread from adjacent and nearby counties, and the other is to discover it yourself. The "focus" options only apply to original discovery. Each county has its own set of advances it knows, and the one you are seeing on that screen is the one for your capital. Many of the "blank" options affect the events you can get - for instance, "The Inquisition" doesn't have any direct benefit, but it allows certain Inquisition events to fire, and makes other religious events more common. And yes, higher level techs take longer to discover.
2) New rulers inherit claims and money, yes.
3) You don't get any extra money, but you do get more prestige from having multiple titles of the same level. As well, you get more prestige for having more vassals a tier below you. For instance, you're duke of Munster and Meath. This makes you gain more prestige than say, the duke of Connacht. However, if you become king of Ireland, the duke titles do nothing, and it would be best to give them to sons or other vassals for the prestige.
4) Give some kids ecclesiastical education if you want more possible bishops. If all else fails, the pope may send you someone in an event.
5) Piety has a few good points. It helps any badboy you have go away, it keeps your vassals happy, and if you have a lot you might be appointed papal controller, with the power to excommunicate people for cheap claims.
6) I don't know much about skill inheritance. My marriages are usually made for one of these reasons:
- My advisors suck, let's hit up the ledger for a 23 stw bride
- Time to make lots of heirs, let's see who's got a big family
- I'm low on prestige, I should marry sons/daughters to royalty for the bonus
- I'm low on money, I should marry myself/daughters to anybody for the bonus
and the most common,
- Hmmm...Lilka Wlostowic seems like a nice name, let's get her in here
7) You can only have one alliance, but it lasts until the death or dethroning of one of the parties involved. Dishonoring a call to arms doesn't break the alliance.

Hopefully this helps.
 
Thanks everyone.

So Sophilla, marriages can give you prestige or money?? How does that work? Never noticed that before. Does it improve relations with the Count/duke/King whose family you marry into?

ALso, just made myself King of Ireland, but I am also the duke of 3 dukedoms in my kingdom. I don't seem to be able to give those away to anybody, I'm assuming because I am them. So how do I bestow my duke titles to someone else? Are there any restrictions on who can become a duke?
 
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Thanks everyone.

So Sophilla, marriages can give you prestige or money?? How does that work? Never noticed that before. Does it improve relations with the Count/duke/King whose family you marry into?

You get prestige for every marriage that is arranged with someone in your court. You only can get gold for a marriage of your ruler and of your eldest daughter, in both cases you can also choose for a bit of extra prestige (you will get an event pop-up).

Marrying has some effect on your relationship with other rulers, but relationships between rulers have little effect in the game.

ALso, just made myself King of Ireland, but I am also the duke of 3 dukedoms in my kingdom. I don't seem to be able to give those away to anybody, I'm assuming because I am them. So how do I bestow my duke titles to someone else? Are there any restrictions on who can become a duke?

You can only give duketitles to existing, direct vassals of your ruler. So if you want to give someone a duke, you must first make him a count.

If you have a demesne of just 1 province then you can't grant away any title.

Also remember that you need to save and reload when your primary-title (in this case you becoming king of Ireland). Since else the game will treat you as a computer-controller character.
 
When I select grant title, a list of people comes up to select. None of my counts are available in that list, so I can't seem to make any of them a duke. Why is that? I have three demenses under my personal control, so that should mean I can give away my duke titles right? All my other counts are counts of only 1 demense.

Also, can I divorce my wife? She is not very fertile and hates me now. I'm thinking of going Henry VIIIth on her. :)
 
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You need to click on your count's demense to grant him any more titles.
 
You need to click on your count's demense to grant him any more titles.

Yeah, when you select Grant Title from your own options screen, it only shows people in your court. To grant to existing vassals, do as Sophilia mentions. Select the count you want to grant a title, and on the list of actions, there should be a 'Grant title' option.
 
No, you can't divorce your wife. But you can assasinate her (though that comes with certain risks).

Certain risks, being the nasty 'Kinslayer' trait. If you are discored you get this, and it will severely affect the loyalty ratings of vassals, courtiers and especially near relatives.

Usually the vassals are not a problem, as hopefully you have enough prestige to counter the effect. Problem comes with courtiers (unaffected by your prestige score) and certainly near family members (as you have just proved you have no qualms about killing off relatives that stand in your way).

In worst case, you could end up with a near empty court.
 
Ahhh. thats what I was doing wrong as far as dukes, makes sense now.

Hmmm... have to think about what to do with my wife, consequences seem harsh. I guess if my rulers kids dont make it, his brother is pretty talented, so I wouldn't be too bad off there.
 
Thanks Jimmy.

As far as #6 - that would go for your daughters only right? I did try to marry my daughter off to an irish count who has no kids, but they wouldn't take wither girl, my relation was only 75, so maybe thats why. They were failry talented too.

No, only for sons. If your daughter's son inherit's your throne, in the game's eyes your throne has been inherited by another dynasty. So what you do is marry off your son to another count/duke/king's daughter. They have a son (sometimes this may take awhile) and this son is in succession for that title. If he is first in line (maybe by assassinations), he will get that title. If he is your first son's first son, under most succession laws he will inherit both your title and the aforementioned title eventually.

Since you are king of Ireland, maybe engineering a inheritance of Brittany or of Scotland should be your goal. Or maybe Iceland would make a good target too as it is pretty close to your base.