One of the most important aspects I think -- how will the fact that they didn't bother to wait to get to the holy lands to get some combat be handled 
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Originally posted by Aetius
4th crusade springs to mind
Originally posted by Idiotboy
Hmm this brings me to a different question. The game starts in 1066 when there is 30 years left before the crusades. There is even five years left to the bizarre battle at Manzikert which pretty much led to the crusades as initially they were launched because the basileus asked for help from the west. With a bit of skill there wouldn´t be so hard to alter history. Are we gonna see scenarios starting sometime in the 1090 something for those who want to play the crusades or could they perhaps be triggered by some other event??
Originally posted by Idiotboy
Hmm this brings me to a different question. The game starts in 1066 when there is 30 years left before the crusades. There is even five years left to the bizarre battle at Manzikert which pretty much led to the crusades as initially they were launched because the basileus asked for help from the west. With a bit of skill there wouldn´t be so hard to alter history. Are we gonna see scenarios starting sometime in the 1090 something for those who want to play the crusades or could they perhaps be triggered by some other event??
Originally posted by Andrew
Even before Manzikert the Holy Land was under the thumb of the infidels. It's not too much of a stretch to assume the Crusade would have happened anyway. Although Constantinople would not have been as cooperative.
Originally posted by Surcouf
yes but there was no problem to go to jerusalem under the empire, after the problem created put on the front the 1st crusade
and if not catholic the orthodox are still christian so it is a different form of action against them, no crusade
Originally posted by Frodon
Well, I guess there will be something in Europe to keep us occupied while we're waiting for the 1st Crusade. A little trip to sunny Spain comes to mind. Or perhaps some action in one of the Norman kingdoms...
Originally posted by Andrew
Even before Manzikert the Holy Land was under the thumb of the infidels. It's not too much of a stretch to assume the Crusade would have happened anyway. Although Constantinople would not have been as cooperative.
Originally posted by Cornelius Sulla
I know I will be playing the Eastern Roman Empire and NOT HAVE Those damned uncivilized barbarians (yes I mean the Crusades) enter my realm! <g>
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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What about Easter Crusades that took place in 1300 century in Prussia, Lithuania and Latvia? Teutonic order was funding crusades into Orthodox or Pagan territories which was supported by Pope.... How will be that shown?
Originally posted by Yozhik
An event like -2500 population, -50 gold, religion changed to catholic for each of the affected provinces? Well, that and something for Tannenberg...
It's really interesting how some of the Crusades were sent off against other Christian nations. And it's really interesting how Russians, bleeding badly from Mongols in 1238-1242 still managed to sack the Teuton elite in 1242 (Chudskoe lake, anyone? ^_^)
Originally posted by zmeiat joro
Damn straightAnd if they do don't worry I'll help you get rid of them as a good Orthodox friend
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