DIY: Piety & Prestige for Building (1.2)

[Fawr]

You have probibily been found that despite what the tooltips say you don't get any piety or prestige for building any of the buildings. However I have found a simple DIY fix.

In the file <CK FOLDER>\db\provinceimprovements.txt there are details about the various buildings. You will see descriptions like this:

school =
{
cost = { gold = 100 prestige = 0 piety = 0 }
construction_time = 12
required_advances = { monastic_schools = yes }

onetime_bonus = { prestige = 25 }

lasting_effects =
{
percentage_score = { gold = 0.95 }
}
}

But if you change to cost line to:

cost = { gold = 100 prestige = -25 piety = 0 }

Then building this building will give you 25 prestige. You will still want to leave in the onetime_bonus line (where the 25 came from), because the tooltips don't display prestige/piety costs. There are two issues with this:
1) You get the prestige/piety when you start building
2) If you cancel the building you will pay part of the costs, but will also gain part of the pretige/piety. This is an exploit, so don't do it.

I modified the entire provinceimprovements.txt file in about 5 minutes (moving the onetime_bonus lines into the cost lines). I don't know much about posting the final file anywhere, but I thought I would share the results so that you can play a proper Orthodox game (without the game ending because of a spree of usury).

 

[unmerged(11982)]

Thanks Fawr, nice to have a way to fix this for now.

Myros

 

[Gothmog]

That simple? Then I guess even I can do it...it'll be my second mod ever. Anyway, thanks for the information.

 

[unmerged(20844)]

thanks a lot, this bothers me a lot, because it practically makes some buildings useless and bad

 

[Sikker]

You have probibily been found that despite what the tooltips say you don't get any piety or prestige for building any of the buildings. However I have found a simple DIY fix.

In the file <CK FOLDER>\db\provinceimprovements.txt there are details about the various buildings. You will see descriptions like this:


But if you change to cost line to:

Then building this building will give you 25 prestige. You will still want to leave in the onetime_bonus line (where the 25 came from), because the tooltips don't display prestige/piety costs. There are two issues with this:
1) You get the prestige/piety when you start building
2) If you cancel the building you will pay part of the costs, but will also gain part of the pretige/piety. This is an exploit, so don't do it.

I modified the entire provinceimprovements.txt file in about 5 minutes (moving the onetime_bonus lines into the cost lines). I don't know much about posting the final file anywhere, but I thought I would share the results so that you can play a proper Orthodox game (without the game ending because of a spree of usury).

you write -piety but say that it will give you +prestige. Is this correct?

 

[Fawr]

you write -piety but say that it will give you +prestige. Is this correct?

Are you refering to the line where I say

cost = { gold = 100 prestige = -25 piety = 0 }

this should be read as a

cost =
{gold = 100
prestige = -25
piety = 25}

So the -25 here refers to prestige not piety. The number is -ve because it is a "cost" of constructing the building, so you pay -25 prestige = gain 25 prestige.

 

[Sikker]

Yes I am referring to that line (cost = { gold = 100 prestige = -25 piety = 0 } )

and below you say:
Then building this building will give you 25 prestige.

Wouldn't that give 25 piety?

 

[unmerged(20844)]

why should it give piety? it says "prestige=-25", therefore it gives 25 prestige, right?

 

[Sikker]

OK - I've become dyslexic. Somehow I switched the equations in my head ... my bad. It is written correctly

 

[unmerged(8065)]

does it work?
it doesnt seem to work for me.
changed the line to:

cost = { gold = 100 prestige = -25 piety = 0 }

and yet no effect on prestige when i start building my school.

 

[unmerged(23737)]

does it work?
it doesnt seem to work for me.
changed the line to:

cost = { gold = 100 prestige = -25 piety = 0 }

and yet no effect on prestige when i start building my school.

It should have an effect if the school is completed not when start building it(this is how i think it should work)!

 

[Fawr]

It should have an effect if the school is completed not when start building it

The way prestige/piety for buildings should work is that you get them when the building is finished. However unfortunatly my work-around gives you the piety/prestige when you start, which isn't perfict, but is better than no piety/prestige.

it doesnt seem to work for me.
changed the line to:
cost = { gold = 100 prestige = -25 piety = 0 }
and yet no effect on prestige when i start building my school.

Are you sure? Try cancelling the school and see if you get your presige taken away again. The peity/prestige costs definatly work, because there is a confirmed BUG in the bug forum about them. Could you try again, and check that you modified the cost of the school? Has anyone else got this working?

 

[Gothmog]

The way prestige/piety for buildings should work is that you get them when the building is finished. However unfortunatly my work-around gives you the piety/prestige when you start, which isn't perfict, but is better than no piety/prestige.

Agreed, it's far better. It can be abused, but then so can the numerous cheat codes that are in the game. As long as you "play by the rules" the only problem is that the prestige/piety arrives a bit early, which is hardly a major problem.