Dont understand revolutions

[jfinley12]

I just came back to vicky since after launch. one of the things I dont understand is I ended up having a civil war. I got a popup about a revolution but I dont understand why. My pops were getting everything they needed and my radical to loyalist was way in favor of loyalists. When i say my pops were getting what they need all three of them had excess. I dont have the saved game before the war started so i cant post a pic. I did have the option to supress but im not sure how that works either. Did i just not see the tool tip that would have ended it or do you just get bad random rng now even if your country is doing good?

 

[maruta074]

You can start debate on bills they want or stop debate on bills they oppose.

 

[jfinley12]

You can start debate on bills they want or stop debate on bills they oppose.

ok thanks I was trying to get some bill passed

 

[Manchura]

I just came back to vicky since after launch. one of the things I dont understand is I ended up having a civil war. I got a popup about a revolution but I dont understand why. My pops were getting everything they needed and my radical to loyalist was way in favor of loyalists. When i say my pops were getting what they need all three of them had excess. I dont have the saved game before the war started so i cant post a pic. I did have the option to supress but im not sure how that works either. Did i just not see the tool tip that would have ended it or do you just get bad random rng now even if your country is doing good?

there are multiple kinds of civil wars:

Political movement civil wars, your pops just want a change in how the government runs things or are happy with how things are but angry at the changes attempting to be passed (the socialist movement, radical movement, and reactionary movement are the easiest examples of this to fire for most countries) you can stop these by looking at what laws are agitating them and change those

ethnic independence civil wars, these are THE SINGLE MOST ANNOYING THING ON THE PLANET and will be 90% of your civil wars as they are entirely based on if a pop is less than T5 acceptance and you own at least one homeland of the associated group, if they are it doesn't matter how small the support is it WILL fire at some point... you can literally be one guy'd by owning a homeland state with one radical pop in it from T1 acceptance and within 200 days he will start a civil war dragging 10 states which aren't even part of that homeland simply because the ethnic makeup of those states has more of the associated pops involved in the civil war than those who aren't involved, you can stop these by going multiculturalism (the stupid choice) or go E state with no migration control and state religion then use chemical weapons when they fire (the smart choice) for a one and done war with that particular group

political independence movements, these are the rarest but usually most devastating civil wars you can face and are a sign you ROYALLY screwed up a run, if you have created such a divided population base to the point the majority are either loyal or radicals entirely based on if they support one of 2 movements then instead of a political movement civil war that just wants change they will demand independence for their own political autonomy (the slavery question is the easiest example of this) you can fix this by not letting your pops get into a binary where they support 100% diametrically opposing movements

 

[jfinley12]

there are multiple kinds of civil wars:

Political movement civil wars, your pops just want a change in how the government runs things or are happy with how things are but angry at the changes attempting to be passed (the socialist movement, radical movement, and reactionary movement are the easiest examples of this to fire for most countries) you can stop these by looking at what laws are agitating them and change those

ethnic independence civil wars, these are THE SINGLE MOST ANNOYING THING ON THE PLANET and will be 90% of your civil wars as they are entirely based on if a pop is less than T5 acceptance and you own at least one homeland of the associated group, if they are it doesn't matter how small the support is it WILL fire at some point... you can literally be one guy'd by owning a homeland state with one radical pop in it from T1 acceptance and within 200 days he will start a civil war dragging 10 states which aren't even part of that homeland simply because the ethnic makeup of those states has more of the associated pops involved in the civil war than those who aren't involved, you can stop these by going multiculturalism (the stupid choice) or go E state with no migration control and state religion then use chemical weapons when they fire (the smart choice) for a one and done war with that particular group

political independence movements, these are the rarest but usually most devastating civil wars you can face and are a sign you ROYALLY screwed up a run, if you have created such a divided population base to the point the majority are either loyal or radicals entirely based on if they support one of 2 movements then instead of a political movement civil war that just wants change they will demand independence for their own political autonomy (the slavery question is the easiest example of this) you can fix this by not letting your pops get into a binary where they support 100% diametrically opposing movements

thanks for the info. I had to start a new game and so far so good ill just try to pay better attention to what kind it is. I am really loving the changes to the game or additions. Vicky 1 and 2 were some of my fav paradox moments.