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Previously I have been making single threads for all the ongoing EIR II games. But since most of the organizing for these games goes on at Lord Ederon's forum, in future I will compress all information for all the ongoing EIR games here into one thread, and the individual game threads will be handled at Lord Ederons:

Here is the list of ongoing EIR II games linked to their respective threads at Lord Ederons. Anyone who has questions or is interested in participating, please post here or go to the respective thread:

EIR Mondays (EU 19:00CET)


USSR: OPEN
FRA/USA: ISD
UK: Waffen (silver)

Possible minor Canada

Germany: Gunny
Italy: Cueball
Japan: John

Possible Minors Hungary:
This game is played on the HOI II Doomsday/Armagedon 1.2 version, patched with EIR II -- Goerings Delay -- QPAR -- Full version for Armageddon 1.2

EIR Mondays (NA 00:00CET)


USSR: GeoFactor
FRA/USA: Cyprian
UK: Cueball


Possible minor Canada

Germany: Waffen
Italy: Hiensen
Japan: Nostra

Possible Minors Hungary:
This game is played on the HOI II Doomsday/Armagedon 1.2 version, patched with EIR II -- Goerings Delay -- QPAR -- Full version for Armageddon 1.2

EIR Wednesdays (EU 1900CET)


USSR: Waffen/MIA needs sub
FRA/USA: Hiensen
UK: Mighty G.

Possible minor Canada

Germany: Edzako
Italy: Cueball
Japan: OPEN

Possible Minors Hungary:
This game is played on the HOI II Doomsday/Armagedon 1.2 version, patched with EIR II -- Goerings Delay -- QPAR -- Full version for Armageddon 1.2

EIR Wednesdays (NA 00:00CET)


USSR: Waffen(silver)/MIA needs sub
FRA/USA: Wretched Mass
UK: Nostra

Germany: Cueball
Italy: Geofactor
Japan: Hiensen

Possible Minors Hungary and canada:
This game is played on the HOI II Doomsday/Armagedon 1.2 version, patched with EIR II -- Goerings Delay -- QPAR -- Full version for Armageddon 1.2

EIR Sunday (General) 19:00 CET


USSR: Edzako
FRA/USA: Wretched Mass
UK: Gunny

Possible minor Canada

Germany: Nostra
Italy: ISD
Japan: Cueball

Possible Minors Hungary:
This game is played on the HOI II Doomsday/Armagedon 1.2 version, patched with EIR II -- Goerings Delay -- QPAR -- Full version for Armageddon 1.2

General Rules for EIR II -- Goerings Delay -- QPAR:
The following rules are based on creating a balanced game with a historical flavour, and exceptions or exploits not covered by these rules will be decided by the players in game, based on historical precedent, obvious "gaminess" is prohibited.

In game rules changes in blue:


IMPROVEMENTS AND DOCTRINES

0.1: Coastal/land forts level max is 5
0.2: It's forbidden to abandon doctrine

SPECIAL RULES

0.3: no nuclear weapons till 44
0.4: no rockets or flying bombs till 43

TRADES

1.1: The 2nd day of the game the Axis are the first to make trades, later come the Allies
1.2: The first trades already in place before the game starts must be respected until the war within the context of the allowances made in the other rules.
1.3: The trades between GER/SU and USA/JAP must be free and fair till the war or embargo event (for USA)
1.4: The Allies/Comintern is able to cancel some trades when their new factories put their resource growth in the red
1.5: Free trades only between allied countries at war.
1.6 : The Allies may not trade for rares with AI countries that they are not allied to with the exception of deals suggested by the AI itself.
1.7 : Trading and selling units is forbidden, except between allied nations, and then only non-capital class ships higher than class I (No CV's, CVL, BB's or CA's), and if payment is received at 100% negotiation.
1.8 : No trading, selling or donating VP provinces, unless that province is a core province of the receiving nation.

SPIES

2.1 : Coups or funding partisans are not allowed against any nation, all other options are allowed.

UNITS IN THE FRONT

3.1 : Urban Limit for stacking units is 36
3.2 : Amphibious landing is unlimited
3.3 : No SR with units adjacent to enemy units, or when you're bombed from the air
3.4 : Recycling units (disbanding) is allowed only if they aren't already encircled
3.5 : You must supply ALL your OWN divisions, air and fleet in your OWNED provinces
3.6 : Expeditionary Force can be given to an ally only when supplying these units is impossible (example Africa Corps in Italian Libya). (Spartan Rule 7.4)
3.7 : Expeditionary forces from minor allies must be returned to those allies if ally is under Military control
3.8 : No advanced HQ exploit. HQ's must be attached to other land units, or synchronized to arrive at the same time as other units on the attack.
3.9 : Paradroping mission in order to kill retreating units is forbidden

DIPLOMACY

4.1 : No war until Danzig except those wars prompted by events
4.2 : Phony wars are not allowed - when you are able to take the last victory points or annex, do so quickly
4.3 : You must respect peace treaties and non aggression pacts, unless changed by event or otherwise through the AI.
4.5 : No player will join an alliance that will result in a NAP with any country with 10 or more IC being broken, or DOW another country and cause a NAP with any country with 10 or more IC being broken .
4.6 : When you join one Alliance you must stay in it until the end
4.7 : Human players playing minor countries may not join their parent alliance unless they are at +200 relations with the alliance leader, without exception.
4.8 : No country may GOI any other country.
4.9 : No new alliances with minors until the fall of Czech except by event.

INFLUENCING

5.1 : Influencing of opponent player countries is forbidden.
5.2 : Influencing historical minor Allies of the opposing alliance is forbidden, (For Example, UK may not influence Hungary but could influence Nationalist Spain)

GERMANY RULES

6.1 : Axis alliances allowed: Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy, Argentina, Nationalist Spain, Finland (after the end of Winter War event), and Japan (if Japan may, see Japan 7.9)
6.2 : No Axis minors when played by Humans (Hungary -- Romania -- Bulgaria) may join Axis until after the fall of Czechoslovakia in March 1939. Human Nationalist Spain and Argentina may join Axis after Danzig. Note: All these Alliances are governed by rule 4.5.
6.3 : Axis powers may not give military Access to Japan until it is in the Axis.

ITALY RULES

7.1 : Italy can join axis at any time after Albania event as governed by 4.5 for minors.
7.2 : Italy must NOT accept the surrender event when its homeland is invaded (event bugged)

JAPAN RULES

8.1 : Japan independent alliances: Japan cannot ally any Chinese warlord country (Tibet included) but alliance with Siam is allowed by event
8.2 : Japan MUST accept the surrender event when its homeland is invaded
8.3 : Japan may not join Axis until it is at war with USSR.
8.4 : Japan may not accept any peace offer from China prior to the Fall of the Dragon event, other than those occurring through scripted events.

UK/FRANCE RULES

9.1 : Allied alliances allowed: Any except for historical Axis minors
9.2 : France may not have more than three regular army units in the Free French zone of Africa at Vichy.
9.3 : UK may not ally Republican Spain until after Vichy
9.4 : UK cannot ally any country (that isn't attacked by axis) until 1943


USA RULES

10.1 : USA cannot be played by a human until the Vichy event.
10.2 : USA may only join the Allies if it could naturally declare war on both Germany and Italy (assuming Italy is in Axis), or in the case where Japan is at war with UK, USA can not Join allies until it could naturally declare war on all three (assuming Italy is in Axis and even if Japan is not).
10.3 : USA may DOW Japan independently of the Allies if it has sliders to do so. (Hence, USA could be at war with Japan but not Germany).

USSR RULES

11.1 : Comintern alliances allowed: Brazil or any countries having Marxist/Stalinist or LWR ideology, after Danzig.
11.2 : SU must honour the MR Pact
11.3 : SU may not give military access to the Allies for the purpose of defending the SU motherland, except when only one BP condition remains
11.4 : USSR may ally any minor after Danzig.

Definitions: For the purposes of these rules a NAP and Peace Treaties may both be referred to as a NAP.

Please check the indivivdual game threads for changes PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS THE RULES or CHANGES TO THEM HERE, this thread is for reference and game organizing purposes only).

NOTE:Posting on this thread: Please clearly identify which game you are posting about in your post. Thanks.
 
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EIR Wednesdays (EU 1900CET):
Still needs a confirmed Japan. Nostra has been playing it for the last 2 weeks, but ISD was the originally confirmed player. I hope that ISD is still interested in playing and will take up where Nostra has left off. If not the position is available.

EIR Wednesday (NA 00:00CET)
Wretched Mass can not play on Wednesday, and as such all players but Geofactor (Italy) have confirmed they can do a session on Tuesday November 17th at the regular time.
 
EIR Mondays (EU 1900CET):
Need a sub for Soviet Union for tomorrows session. Boring job.
 
EIR Mondays (EU 1900CET):
Dan played France, and Pepsi played Soviet Union, in the last session.

It looks like Nostra is out permanently so we are looking for a permanent Soviet Union for this game. Pepsi is of course welcome to carry on... Dan as well if ISD is not showing up anymore.

EIR Wednesdays (EU 1900CET):
Still needs a confirmed Japan. Nostra has been playing it for the last 2 weeks, but ISD was the originally confirmed player. I hope that ISD is still interested in playing and will take up where Nostra has left off. If not the position is available.

EIR Wednesday (NA 00:00CET) UPDATE
Wretched Mass can not play on Wednesday. We were going to reschedule for Tuesday, however Nostra can not make that so now we are looking to have people confirm Thursday, instead.
 
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EIR Mondays (EU 1900CET):
Dan played France, and Pepsi played Soviet Union, in the last session.

Waffen is unavailable for this game because his computer is busted. We could sub, but as it is the lineup is pretty unstable, without a confirmed Soviet Union, or a confirmed France. I asked Dan if he could continue, and he says he is too busy, so I think we need to postpone til next week.

EIR Mondays (NA 00:00CET):

Waffen is out for the same reason as the 19:00 game. However, Hiensen has agreed to sub Germany, so we can play if we find an player to sub Italy, which is Hiensen's country.
 
EIR Wednesdays (EU 1900CET November 26th):
Still needs a confirmed Japan. Waffen's computer is bust, as well. So we need an SU for this game. Perhaps we should move this game to a time when Waffen can play?
EIR Wednesday (NA 00:00CET) November 26th
Waffen's computer is bust, as well. So we need an SU for this game. Perhaps we should move this game to a time when Waffen can play?
 
Cueball said:
EIR Wednesdays (EU 1900CET November 26th):
Still needs a confirmed Japan. Waffen's computer is bust, as well. So we need an SU for this game. Perhaps we should move this game to a time when Waffen can play?
EIR Wednesday (NA 00:00CET) November 26th
Waffen's computer is bust, as well. So we need an SU for this game. Perhaps we should move this game to a time when Waffen can play?

Hey folks!

im interested in the monday cet game. can i join it?
Are u planning to start a new game or is that an ongoing one?
 
This game is ongoing, I responded to your query in the thread a Lord Ederons.
 
EIR Wednesdays (EU 1900CET postponed until December 3rd):

EIR Wednesday (NA 00:00CET) Postponed until December 3rd

EIR Mondays (EU 1900CET):
ACME said:
Hey folks!

im interested in the monday cet game. can i join it?
Are u planning to start a new game or is that an ongoing one?


Ok so... the lineup has been shakey here for a number of reasons. Waffen's computer problem is the most serious at this point, since he is UK. So I will offer some suggestions.

If Waffen is out for this game for the foreseable future, we can have ACME play UK, since ACME is a solid player I know from the MEM group. So, if Waffen is out, I suggest we have ACME take over UK. Whoever is playing France will have to be aware that ACME is the boss of Allies in that case.

If Waffen is in, then ACME can play France, or USSR, whichever he chooses.


USSR: OPEN
FRA/USA: ISD
UK: Waffen/ACME

Possible minor Canada

Germany: Gunny
Italy: Cueball
Japan: John

Possible Minors Hungary: Max

ACME, I will be sent you a PM at Lord Ederon's.
 
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