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Originally posted by Doomdark:
4) On patching the text.csv file. We must get permission from Paradox to include this file in our patches, since it constitutes a de facto language patch. Otherwise, we'll have to include instructions on how to change it, or start using a true patching utility.
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Don't use text.csv in it please.

/Johan
 
New COT in Stockholm. This is a compromise, since I would prefer if it appeared dynamically when/if Sweden grows powerful. I prefer this solution to none at all though.

Looking in the Province.csv the european provinces that usually get Cots (Anglia & Holland) has an 'uprgadable (sic!)' value of 1 and 'CoT Historical Modifier' of 5. Try changing stockholm (currently only 1 & 3) to this and see what happens.


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/ Stefan Huszics members.nbci.com/huszics/


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Folks, I´d like to hear Your opinion on the following problem:

For Ethiopia we could

a) use some to be dropped moslem minor (e.g. CYR). Problem: This would lead to inadequate unit graphics.
b) use Bantu (BAN). This would give us nicer graphics. Problem: This is one of the tags, which doesn´t allow for tech improvements (like with China etc.). On the other hand, I can at least edit the starting value for tech, only this would remain the same then throughout the game.

I tend to go for b) because of the graphics and because some other nations like China cannot advance, too. (So why should Ethiopia then?) But, as I said, I want to hear Your opinions first. :)

Hartmann
 
'Thanx again, GulFalco! The monarch stats are not high, given that for monarchs they can go up to 9 (only 'Supermen' have this value, though.)'


Alas, on average they are higher than the stats for monarchs of the major powers in the game.


Looking at the roots (the BG) the playable mayors random monarch average about 5/5/5 but with a minimum of 3/3/3 (unless having deceased heirs and/or the regent very young when acending the trone in which cases even 1/1/1 was possible). Thus usually values ranged between 2-5 with an odd 6-7 and a very rare 8-9 among them.

Somewhere between 2/2/2 (very weak) and 4.5/4.5/4.5 (very strong) on average for the RotW minors should probably be the target.
5/5/5 on average is MUCH to high for any minor IMO.

If anyone would like to have a look at the randomizationtable from the BG look for the Player Aide in the BG downloads section on my pages.


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Venice´s loss of Ragusa is fully compensated by the Arsenale and by getting the Cyclades.

This really makes sence IMO also becourse the Cyclades geographically belongs to S-Europe (as strangely all the eastern med ilands do).
For instance the Austrian mission 'Keep Turkey out of S-Europe' is pretty much a doomed cause in the original GC since Austria doesn't have a fleet ...
Then again it might bee too easy now unless Turkey takes some mediteranian islands early on. The best & most historical sollution would probably be to change the mission into 'Keep Turkey out of C-Europe-Danube (Austria-Hungary +moldavia +dobrudja +bujak - serbia -croatia -carniola). This probably would require official Paradox involvement though.

Anyway, for Austria to gain VPs for keeping the Turks out of Spain, Italy & mediteranian islands seems a bit off the mark =). Mayby this is even a bug ?

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Looking in the Province.csv the european provinces that usually get Cots (Anglia & Holland) has an 'uprgadable (sic!)' value of 1 and 'CoT Historical Modifier' of 5. Try changing stockholm (currently only 1 & 3) to this and see what happens.
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Interesting... But I am afraid that these are hardcoded events.

/Doomie

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Originally posted by Doomdark:
Interesting... But I am afraid that these are hardcoded events.

/Doomie

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=(

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Originally posted by Raphael:
But adding Bretagne as a new minor wouldn't be accurate, I think. For Bretagne, the problem is the same as for Aragon : the vassalty was the result of a dynastical union. So it was really a closer vassalty link than a usual one.
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you're absolutely right. that's what I wanted to say, but didnt know how to. thanks for helping me out :)


As EU doesn't provide specific rules for dynastic union, I think the best way to handle this is to make Bretagne a possible minor that could revolt. Same thing for Aragon. But I'm of course opened to critics of this solution.
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What about starting with a relationship between them(france_bretagne+aragon_spain) of +175 or so and a vassalage that has been existent for a lot of years(since 145* in aragon's example). I think the risk of revolting already is set, and that by doing this a diplomatic annexation would be easier, even if not totally historically accurate. Then it could be tendentious to rebel. IMHO a rebel country wannabe isnt enough, i know we cant be precise in this matter but I and a lot of ppl would give anything to see this, even if it isnt accurate neither :D

Originally posted by Raphael:
PS : that makes me think about the minor Provence you have alrealy talked about earlier. As far as I know, it doesn't correspond to anything. Languedoc may have secede from France because there were many protestants there, but Provence ? Really, I don't understand where this idea comes from. If anybody understand ?
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provence was conquered only some 200 hundred years before the start of the game by the french, so the nobility of provence was prepared to rebirth from the ashes(sic?), as any other nobility tried to do if they had been annexed recently. I dont really know if this would be enough to include'em, i've been told provence has been one of the nations that has fighted less for his political independance, all they did for example when le roi soleil(sic?) wanted to subdue'em politically speaking was to barely protest(please correct me if he was/im wrong :))

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Doomie: The Novgorod set is ready. I hope it looks ok?

Yannelis: Sorry about the uniform. I us them just for decoration so I didn't pay it much attention. I'll fix a better looking Greek soldier.

Zagloba: Thanks a lot for the information about the Ragusan flag! The thought of doing the vertical striped flag was not very appealing. But I'll desperately need a picture of the flag. Or one of St.Blaise or how the word Libertas was displayed. Please..anyone???
 
When will the patch be out out?
 
Ragusa's on the right (circa 1700)....

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Hope it was helpful.

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'A set of local sovereign states can be no more than a transitory political configuration.'- Toynbee
 
McGuinn,
Thanks, here some links that might help
This is 19th Century Greek Uniform, the one in the middle: http://www.culture.gr/4/42/421/42101/421020/00/lm42120f.jpg

More that might help: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/8740/1821.htm

This is an excellent picture: http://www.fhw.gr/projects/vouli/en/museum/room03.html

Also, maybe use Byzantine-type troops for The pre-gunpowder Greeks, or maybe modify the Russian, Turksih, Persian, or Egyptian troops a bit to amke them Greekish, I'm not quite sure what to do there.
 
Recently I posted about PRU/LAT, when I did so I was under the impression that vassals could not have vassals. It seems they can. Well, the head of the Order in East Prussia, a Polish fief, appointed the head of the Order in 'Livonia', represented by LAT. The answer is simple, make LAT a vassal of PRU. This would be more historically accurate. If Poland does gain PRU, this does not mean they gain LAT too, unless it has already joined PRU,which is highly unlikely because PRU is less 'powerful' than LAT. This 're-union' not occuring was for fear that the Poles would not stand for it, is that not a 'in-game' issue? If everyone is so afraid of this making PRU/LAT so strong then another historical reality can be built in to the game. Poland, Russia, Sweden, and Denmark descended on the Order's lands after the Grandmaster went Protestant. The answer here is easy too. The Order did not have good relations with its neighbors, in the first place, and by going Protestant that should lower them enough to make war likely. As an aside, I would like to know how the game usually plays in the Baltic. Does Poland usually get Prussia, Sweden win the wars in Livonia, followed by the time of Peter when he gains much of the Baltic, while Brandenburg gets Prussia? This is a VERY, short synopsis of what happened, but I would be very interested to hear how things play. Also, does the game mimic the fact that these provinces were highly desirable, so much so that even Denmark tried to grab them.

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History is a lie agreed upon. Napoleon

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McGuin,
Excellent!!! Hes nearly perfect!!! Maybe make his shoes red, but thats all I could think of.
Amazing Work, your awesome!!!

Guys, we should also think about making Serbia and Bulgaria revolt nations. Especially Serbia.
 
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