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If i want to implement this patych, do i just download it to where? and irt will take care of itself, or is it a file that needs to me edited into existing files?

You download the patch from my site, unzip it into the EU directory and let it overwrite any files. Before doing this, you might want to backup the DB and Scenario directories. If not, a re-install of the game will also clear away the patch. Any official patch you install will erase parts of the Improved GC patch, so it should be installed after every official EU patch.

/Doomie
 
McGuinn,

You really work fast! Thank you, now we only need some leaders and monarchs for Mecklenburg and Pomerania! :)

/Doomie
 
Version 1.2 of the Improved GC patch is now up at:
http://www.ludd.luth.se/~doomdark/EUproject.html

I hope I remembered to include all the necessary files. Don't hang me if I didn't, ok? :)

Please take a look at the file 'Readme_IGC.txt' included in the zip-archive for instructions. I will be out of the loop for the next two weeks (going on vacation), so Hartmann will have to take over for a while. Be nice now.

/Doomdark
 
Score!!!
 
Names of Ragusa and Greece dont show up, Ragusa is 'unknown string wanted' and Greece is 'Holy Roman Empire(which is not too bad, most Greeks called themselves Romans until the 19th century)'
 
More problems-
-Greece cnat build gallyes
-Greece has too cheap cavalry and artilley, and too expensive infantry
 
I just came back from my journey and only had time to 'scan' the new entries so far. There is much valuable info and help, some misunderstandings and some issues I can only answer when I have downloaded Doomie´s patch myself.

Some first remarks:

1. My additions will always be part of Doomie´s patch, so there will be no seperate download link. We agreed to divide work, so that in the future I will concentrate on Afrika, Middle East, Asia and SE Asia.
2. In the version I sent to Doomie, there were no problems with 'unknown strings' etc. Maybe this is due to not installing the patch correctly, Yannelis? (You have to add some changes to text.csv by Yourself - this is all in the readme.) I will test this issue in the evening with the 1.2. patch (I still have to download).
3. I think I did most of the changes concerning Ragusa alright. I myself didn´t make them a vassal of Hungary, because this vassalship was quite 'inconsequential' and the Turkish influence seemed much stronger to me. In the light of the results of future testing, we should discuss this issue further. Maybe in the end Ragusa shouldn´t be a vassal to anyone at the start of the game and only have a royal marriage with Hungary and Venice. Look at this for comparison: In 1492 Crimea was a vassal of the Turks, too. But they were free to do almost all they wanted, including an alliance with Russia. That´s why in the game they only start out with a royal marriage with Turkey.
About the question, whether one province minors as Ragusa should be implemented in the game at all, You always have to look at the 'big picture' - here, the Eastern Mediterranean. With all the changes (wharf, Cyclades, Greece, Ragusa) it´s definitely protrayed much better now than it was in the original GC.
4. Building costs for Greece can be adjusted in further versions, no problem.
5. I will not 'drop' the Aq Qoyunlu, but maybe there will be only one 'Persia', where the dynasty of the Aq Qoyunlu will be followed by the Savavids instead of having two seperate countries. Keeping them seperate still will be an option also, but this would include some 'Swiss Cheese' and maybe also weaken the region too much with regards to the Ottomans. Besides historical accuracy of the initial settings, we will always have to take gameplay issues into account, too.
6. Next country I will implement, will be Ethiopia. I already did some preliminary changes, which look quite nicely. Historically, Nubia and Ethiopia bordered each other and I took care of this (giving Nubia another two provinces to the South, which is correct). Besides, I also corrected the 'Known provinces' for Nubia already. Making Ethiopia orthodox is best, but one has to assure, that they don´t use their yearly settler excessively. That´s why I will make some of their provinces colonies only and confine their known provinces to the South in such a way, that they only can colonise the horn of Africa (i.e. Somalia).
I still need feedback on the question, whether to use BAN for Ethiopia (nice graphics, but no chance to develop technically). Another idea to consider would be to interchange tags for Ethiopia and Nubia, which will leave Nubia as the 'nondeveloper' instead.
7. Nations to drop:
- Cyrenaica (province to Mamelukes, tag will be used maybe for Uzbeks)
- Tripolitania (province to Hafsids, i.e. Tunis, tag still free to use)
- Mahrati (will be Dai Viet)

I will probably not delete any of the nations of India, so at the moment we will have only one additional SEA nation.

O.k., that´s it for the moment. :)

Hartmann

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WB Hartmann.

3. I think I did most of the changes concerning Ragusa alright. I myself didn´t make them a vassal of Hungary, because this vassalship was quite 'inconsequential' and the Turkish influence seemed much stronger to me. In the light of the results of future testing, we should discuss this issue further. Maybe in the end Ragusa shouldn´t be a vassal to anyone at the start of the game and only have a royal marriage with Hungary and Venice. Look at this for comparison: In 1492 Crimea was a vassal of the Turks, too. But they were free to do almost all they wanted, including an alliance with Russia. That´s why in the game they only start out with a royal marriage with Turkey.
About the question, whether one province minors as Ragusa should be implemented in the game at all, You always have to look at the 'big picture' - here, the Eastern Mediterranean. With all the changes (wharf, Cyclades, Greece, Ragusa) it´s definitely protrayed much better now than it was in the original GC.

I agree with whatever you and Doomie should ultimately decide. I appreciate your efforts to be sensitive to both gameplay and historical accuracy and think you are making the best decisions in light of that.

I think Doomie has gone back and forth to make changes as he got more information. This issue clearly evolved over the course of several days and within just hours one morning. Thanks for your patience Doomie.

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I fixed Greece and Novgorod, but I still have problems with Ragusa. It still says 'Unknow File String Wanted'. Maybe we should jsut scrap Ragusa? A lot of other statea are more important.

How does the work on Ethiopia go?

We should also change some of the province's religions, Albania, Smyrna, Trnsylvania and Trabzon should all be Orthodox. And so should some of the East African provinces.

Also, just a random question, I amde Tureky a minor, took all fo thier provinces, and I got six stars. But it wouldnt let me annex them. What gives?
 
Yannelis: Ragusa is working. All You have to do is add the line

SPR;Ragusa;X;X;X;X;X;X;X;X;X;X

to Your text.csv, like the readme says.

I´m working on Ethiopia right now. They got

Keren, Issas, Afars and Ogaden. I changed the religion of these provinces to orthodox and the city of Keren to Axum.

Good news: Against all expectations, BAN is a TAG, which allows for tech development! So we have the ideal tag for Ethiopia. (Doomie already agreed that the Bantu/Zulu can be dropped again.)

Bad news: I have some problems with crashes and seem unable to track down the source .... at least for the moment.

Could someone please give me the stats for the Ethiopian emperors? (The monarch list can be found on page 3 of this thread.)

Regards, Hartmann



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Originally posted by Hartmann:
Yannelis: Ragusa is working. All You have to do is add the line

SPR;Ragusa;X;X;X;X;X;X;X;X;X;X

to Your text.csv, like the readme says.


[This message has been edited by Hartmann (edited 04-02-2001).]


Sorry Hartmann but I can´t find any SPR entry
on my countries list :(
do I add a sPR entry?
I thought we were supposed to change existing entries.
Anyway it is a wonderfull patch so far :)
 
Ethiopia is done :) - except that I still need the monarch stats (at the moment, all their monarchs have the same stats). Has really noone any info about their abilities? The list can still be found on page 3.

I will now have a go at the Dai Viet. :)

Hartmann
 
Originally posted by GulFalco:
Been reading on Ethiopia, now my book does not list 'Christian' names, but I will use the posted list and compare reign dates, also, I need to know if generals are needed, a few are worthy of inclusion as generals I will put an asterik,*, by;

Con.2*, DAM 4/3/4, I have listed as Eskender

David 2*, 3/2/5, Lebna Dengal

Claudius*, 3/3/5, Galawdewos

Sarsa Dengal*, 5/4/6, KICKED ASS!

Basilides, 4/5/4, closed country to west and
new capitol at GONDAR, 1640.

Iyasu I*, 4/3/6, Jesus campaigned alot

Iyasu II, 3/4/3, Jesus 2 who lost to Sudan

All other rulers before 1769 should be, 3/3/4
After that was a time of great inner turmoil and Ethiopia falls apart, thus 2/1/3.


Posted on page 3 already, what is the confusion? These are the only 'above average' monarchs for Ethiopia. Also there is already lots in this thread on Vietnamese leaders.


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History is a lie agreed upon. Napoleon

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Originally posted by GulFalco:
Posted on page 3 already, what is the confusion? These are the only 'above average' monarchs for Ethiopia. Also there is already lots in this thread on Vietnamese leaders.


Thanks, GulFalco, seems I´m really suffering from 'mad cow disease' already. :eek:
At least I still knew about the existing info on the Vietnamese leaders. :)

Hartmann
 
Kool, Hartmann, I was worried you wanted more. Also, 5 of their 'warrior/kings' are possibly worthy of minor general status;

Eskender 2/0/2/0
Lebna Dengal 2/1/2/0
Galawdewos 2/1/3/0
Sarsa Dengal 4/1/3/0
Jesus 3/1/3/0

Same monarch dates as generals.


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History is a lie agreed upon. Napoleon

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