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Which one :p

Good luck vs. Austria, like zachary said you should get Poland into your alliance. If possible, Turkey and Prussia would also be good additions (although Prussia would probably get steamrolled) You could also try to get Spain before the Austrians get them.
 
Morpheus506 said:
Which one :p

Good luck vs. Austria, like zachary said you should get Poland into your alliance. If possible, Turkey and Prussia would also be good additions (although Prussia would probably get steamrolled) You could also try to get Spain before the Austrians get them.

Given that I have cut a bloody line through Spain I doubt that will happen.

To the person who was didn't want to stab hit for dowing Spain, flood their CoT's.
 
Yeah Spain loves to embargo you after you send merchants that knock out Spain's enemies merchants. At least your leaders die fighting enemies all of mine in the Prussian AAR just keep getting dragged off their horses by peasants. :eek:

Prussia steamrolled?!? Nevah! :p
 
The Forgotten Heroes Part 2: The affairs of war

With one war prosecuted it was now a matter of doing the same to Iberia extensive Internal reforms were made in the north along the border of the Austrian lowlands. For five years planning went into effect, Bayard moved to the Peninsula, new conscripts were raised along the border. Finally in 1506, the war department informed us they were ready.

Bayard’s troops moved in quickly storming Aragon, meanwhile our Italians ally, the Pope, army acted like a true Catholic army. After their first defeat they surrender to the troops of Naples, leaving Italy open to the dogs, Romagna was given up.

Baryard moved from Aragon to the capital, it was now the war goal to pay the greatest insult to Ferdinand, to take the country of his birth from him. The reasoning being that Spain cannot be co-ruled if one ruler no longer has a country.

It took a good deal of time but Madrid finally fell to French troops by April of the year 1507, Although it was August before Ferdinand hesitantly agreed to war demands. The treaty of Madrid granted France Spanish maps, Aragon, and Catalonia, which was taken while the siege on Aragon and Madrid took place, however with the excitement waiting for Madrid’s fall that attack on Catalonia was overshadowed.

Once more a short internal break is accounted for, this time in Iberia.

March 1510, the Flortentine Republic is added to the alliance, the Meddici influence was expected to aid in Italian Unification. Just in time to join the new war on Austria, however 1511 the people of Lombardia were added to the Habsburg Empire. This insult was allowed only because they agreed to trade Luxemburg, the countries of Europe now looked a weary eye toward France, knowing they were the only ones who could defeat the Habsburgs, and fearing they would sacrifice everyone else to do so.

The same year of peace, 1511, saw French representatives meeting with Bavarian kingdom officials. French now challenges the Habsburgs for dominance over Germany, as well as Italy. Across Germany fear spreads.

A great triumph when Savoy agreed to become a feudal vassal to the kingdom, the year after Bayard returned to Iberia for a rematch with Ferdinand.

1515, the war had produced good results, the Novles rewarded the state for its good policies. IN march the faith is rewarded with Valencia’s fall

Prospero Collona, the leader who attacked La Palice once more appeared on the scene. Most in France thought him dead long ago, but apparently he had enough kick in him to lead his country men to ruin once more on the plains of Valencia.

Bayard marched on Castile once again as Euskadia fell, I once more began sending out envoys but they were all turned away. By April it was a Spanish envoy who offered peace, Valencia and Eudskadia, a good deal that I encouraged the king to accept.

Flushed with success the king’s armies marched almost immediately on Austria. The struggle was quick, resulting in the Swiss coming under the kingdom. The fortress guarding the Swiss lands, along with the terrain and harsh winter should serve to stall the invaders, after all it worked on our forces.
 
The Priests Story

As the priest was putting away the manuscripts he had been using to teach the class a young noble came up to him.

“Father, may I ask a question?”

The old clergyman turned around sighing, since Luthor had posted his Thesis these questions were becoming more and more frequent. The Father nodded, “Of course my son.”

“Would you say that God would want us to act like brothers toward one another?”

“Of course he would.”

“Then what about the behavior of the Valois and Habsburg houses?”

The lad was referring to the war that began last year between Charles’ Spain and France. Even with Wurtemburg adopting the Lutheran faith no measures are taken by the two most powerful Catholic nations in Europe to stop this. Rumor is that the French king is even supporting the German princes in their revolt against the Emperor. Charles meanwhile is so busy with trying to keep the French from breaking through the Rhineland border he can think of little else.

The cleric nodded his head, “Even brother must fight my son.”

The cleric walked away shaking his head, the old ways were in danger, the King of France was seeking something more then power, they were looking for Empire.

A young noble in the army

The young French noble was a soldier under the great general Bayard. Bayard seemed twenty years older in appearance than he was in actuality, some generals could go through numerous campaigns without getting one scratch on them, Bayard had a scar for every battle. An eye lost taking Luxemburg, a gash across the chest from defeat Prosperro at Aragon, yet he still had the same commanding presence. The people of Madrid were now used to seeing him, they were also thankful that he did not allow one soldier to loot, or take advantage of the people.

However the army did not remain idle at Madrid long, Condestable Borbon had escorted Carlos I to Valencia, which had fallen to the Iberians while the attack on Castile was carried out. In November Borbon was killed in action but Bayards record held true and he was thrown off his horse in the thick of the battle.

The old general held on while the divisions marched on Valncia, this time it was an orgy of destruction brought under control only by my efforts.

Bayard survived to see the anniversary in 1524 of his last entry into Madrid. All of France, and even some of occupied Iberia mourned the generals loss. Bayard sent in a memorial to Paris before hand recommending myself, Marquee Guise, as his replacement for commander of the Grand Armee. A petition was also sent to Paris signed by many of the armies officers.
 
The Priests Story

As the priest was putting away the manuscripts he had been using to teach the class a young noble came up to him.

“Father, may I ask a question?”

The old clergyman turned around sighing, since Luthor had posted his Thesis these questions were becoming more and more frequent. The Father nodded, “Of course my son.”

“Would you say that God would want us to act like brothers toward one another?”

“Of course he would.”

“Then what about the behavior of the Valois and Habsburg houses?”

The lad was referring to the war that began last year between Charles’ Spain and France. Even with Wurtemburg adopting the Lutheran faith no measures are taken by the two most powerful Catholic nations in Europe to stop this. Rumor is that the French king is even supporting the German princes in their revolt against the Emperor. Charles meanwhile is so busy with trying to keep the French from breaking through the Rhineland border he can think of little else.

The cleric nodded his head, “Even brother must fight my son.”

The cleric walked away shaking his head, the old ways were in danger, the King of France was seeking something more then power, they were looking for Empire.
 
Hehehe so you are going after the HRE, that is probably a smart draw to make, and show thosse Habsburger's who is the boss:D Like your Father said, even brothers have to fight, so then you should fight real well:D
 
A young noble in the army

The young French noble was a soldier under the great general Bayard. Bayard seemed twenty years older in appearance than he was in actuality, some generals could go through numerous campaigns without getting one scratch on them, Bayard had a scar for every battle. An eye lost taking Luxemburg, a gash across the chest from defeat Prosperro at Aragon, yet he still had the same commanding presence. The people of Madrid were now used to seeing him, they were also thankful that he did not allow one soldier to loot, or take advantage of the people.

However the army did not remain idle at Madrid long, Condestable Borbon had escorted Carlos I to Valencia, which had fallen to the Iberians while the attack on Castile was carried out. In November Borbon was killed in action but Bayards record held true and he was thrown off his horse in the thick of the battle.

The old general held on while the divisions marched on Valncia, this time it was an orgy of destruction brought under control only by my efforts.

Bayard survived to see the anniversary in 1524 of his last entry into Madrid. All of France, and even some of occupied Iberia mourned the generals loss. Bayard sent in a memorial to Paris before hand recommending myself, Marquee Guise, as his replacement for commander of the Grand Armee. A petition was also sent to Paris signed by many of the armies officers.
 
Guise

Guise led the army defacto while the petition was being worked out, as such he worked out a peace deal with Naples. A devout Catholic he watched in horror as Thuringen Hannover and Prussia joined the Lutheran faith. The disgust was repressed, momentarily, when Paris confirmed his appointment.

He took over at Toledo, the army had taken the coast of Iberia and Charles ceded Murcia and the gold mines at Toledo to the French crown. The gold was the first seen in France in this pure form, we now knew why the Spanish were combing the New World looking for the stuff. For this success the king recognized Guise as Duke, and it was as such he would be known to the Histories for generations. He was made commander of the southern army, and placed on a border with Savoy. While there he negotiated the surrender of Savoy holdings to the Crown of France.

The army gains amounted to almost twenty thousand, only warship however was left of the mighty navy that aided in defeating Spain some decades earlier.

October 1529 The Swedes left the true faith and from the devout in Iberia this is met with nothing but hostility. The politiques, as they are being called, began sheltering German rebels, beginning with Hessen and Thuringen. The good Catholic state of Bavaria became a Subordinate of France proving that good Catholics still live in Germany.

1531 the Politiques were caught embezzling money which caused an increase in inflation, accursed political corruption.

The naval movement converts England the Dutch Republic, and the Hanseatic League to the Protestant radicals. The Emperor could do nothing but protest, troops were sent in to Spain in order to force Charles to stop this madness.

By August the Trading center of Andalusia was taken and the troops were removed to Leon, by the same time next year Spain gave over Leon and Andalusia, capitulating completely to French demands. My own threat to completely burn down Madrid probably aided the swift surrender.

1535 the army is moved to the Austrian border, the King promotes me to Grand Commander of all French armies. Charles moved from Madrid to Vienna, where he felt he would be much safer. Charles was confident in the army commanded by Ferdinand, and with good reason, the army numbered well over sixty thousand.
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot.

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There's a screenie.
 
They still seem strong Zach?

A most Opportune Moment.


The year before the planned invasion the Austrians declared war on the English, the Habsburg king was looking forward to booting the English off the Continent, thus assuring some support among the remaining Catholics. As a peace treaty giving Luca to France was signed, Guise meeted with his staff to discuss who to attack.

Guise himself wanted to attack England, the Admiral however was adamant that the French Navy was neglected for the most part and that many years of build up and money would be required before any attacks on the English could be made. Guise was unhappy about not being able to attack the Anglicans, indeed he would now be defending them. This however would serve as good propaganda in attacking Germany. Reluctantly Guise organized his march into Austria.

The goal is to crush the straggling reinforcements to Ferdinand’s main army, active in the Lowlands. Guise moves into Milan in order to avenge the loss of the Sforza(SP?) family. The Armee De Flanderes marched into Cologne while the Armee de Lyonnais repelled attacking forces from Baden. In August Milan fell and the attack pressed into Tyrol.

By years end Cologne was liberated but the Lutheran’s in Thuringen were annexed to Charles’ Empire. The start of year 36 began with the great peace, far too lenient to the Habsburgs, Milan was annexed to the Empire, and Mainz given to Hessen. This reaffirmed some faith in France, but not much. With the victory on land, the young of France began flocking to the dockyards,

The decade came to an end with Denmark joining the Lutherans, new preparations began in order to attack Spain.
 
France is so evil powerful even at the start of the game. ;) It's just not fair to those one province islands and German minor states!

I have to say you have done a fine job slapping around the Spanish Habsburgs but Austria looks fairly big too. What did you start with, Austrian/Free Lowlands?
 
Cow Pie said:
You are aware that the Habsburg brothers of Austria would be Spain? And I have totally opened up a can on them right?

and my colonies are few and farflung.

Hush! The Spanish are the black sheep of the family, we never speak of them ;) . Beat up on them to your heart's content (I sure did when I was France). I must admit error there however, I should have said "Austrian brothers." Of Course, as this is Charles V's time, they're technically all the same state anyway. Well played, either way.
 
Braedonnal said:
France is so evil powerful even at the start of the game. ;) It's just not fair to those one province islands and German minor states!

Eh Austria's been doing some more German annexation then me.

I have to say you have done a fine job slapping around the Spanish Habsburgs but Austria looks fairly big too. What did you start with, Austrian/Free Lowlands?

Yeah I think that was it, course it don't matter now.
 
This is a story of probably the worst twenty years I've ever played in EU

Guise’s Folly

1541 the time to attack finally came, the war was less about Iberia and more about Italy. By march the army of Italy conquered Modena and Romagna. Romagna was taken from Naples, satisfied Estradumas was taken from Spain, thus making Reaction time to revolts In Iberia substantially higher.

As this war ended the second round of religious war broke out against the Habsburgs, The Dutch Republic and the Swedes began the conflict, which was soon joined by the Prussians leading the house of Hannover and England went to war.

This was the chance the Guise had been waiting for, a large scale war to reduce the Habsburg domains, the first target was Tyrol, while the Northern army moved into Cologne. The Austrians were still led by Ferdinand, however his forces were rarely seen. Revolters in Baden were put down by the Austrians, French forces steamrolled Austria until 1544 when The Dutch Republic interfered in our affairs. Having settled with Austria gaining a province the Dutch were feeling well about themselves, Guise and the Armee de Flanders attack the Dutch destroying their army.

November in 44 Peace was signed seperately with Austria, at the time the allies in Hessen were doing well so France did not want to interfere. Pfalz, and Cologne were ceded to France, thus putting the French in dominion over almost all her former allies that had been gobbled up by the Habsburg monster. The Hessenians were badly beaten however, forced to cede Munster to Kleves, and Wurtemburg to Austria.

However The Dutch were falling fast, with no army, no navy to speak of, the only concern were the Swedes, who refused to accept a peace. After the fall of Holland Guise met up with the navy and began his invasion of Sweden. This was the single greatest folly in all French History, the Grand Armee was destroyed by Swedish army, and winter. Worse the transportation lines were so stretched that the navy could not reach Sweden without suffering losses. To add to these woes the Swedish Navy defeated the French in the Sund.

By 47 The Swedes agreed to peace and the remains of the Grand Armee were finally withdrawn from Sweden, a handful of cannon less then 5% of the force that was sent into Sweden. Guise picked up some reinforcements at Caux and shortly upon his arrival the last Dutch province fell. And the Dutch Republic was annexed to the Kingdom of Spain.

The folly is completed when Guise annexes the Dutch Republic, little did he realize that Nationalism was so high that the Dutch refused to surrender, the French army withdraws to fight another day. The years are spent in peace, with the new navy that the Admiral wanted being worked on. England reformed and switched sides in the religious wars, abandoning the Protestants and joining with the Habsburgs who apparently have no qualms with accepting Protestants.
 
A wise supermodel once said, "My country has a saying. 'It is better to have loved and lost than to have fought Russia in a land war.'" :eek:

To that we can add, "or Sweden." :D

Maybe it was folly but it did get you peace out of it. :)
 
Braedonnal said:
Maybe it was folly but it did get you peace out of it. :)

No it didn't, the only land taken the whole time was one without a fort, and I don't think i was holding it when Guise was getting ping ponged.


But oh the real mistake has yet to occur, needless to say it reshaped West Europe, and not to my favorite Color (Blue)
 
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