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Playing as the UK, I opted to take the dissent hit and go for the most interventionistic route in the Spanish Civil War. However, this route did not put me at war with the Nationalists. Nor did it give me a Casus Belli.

Is this intended? When Italy and Germany later DOWed the Republicans, I was able to go to war with them, but I cannot seem to go to war directly with the Nationalists.
 
Sounds quite right to me - you are supposed to be giving support.. not actually getting involved yourself. The whole mood of the time was to try and avoid a war.. not get needlessly involved in one.

Tim
 
Rightho. I must have gotten muddled. I got the impression that non-military support (like that) was given in the second option, and that the third should have been a military thing.

Thanks for clearing it up.
 
Saint-Germain said:
Rightho. I must have gotten muddled. I got the impression that non-military support (like that) was given in the second option, and that the third should have been a military thing.

Thanks for clearing it up.
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No problem - the difference is that option B is "Limited help from Britain" and Option C is "Help from Britain". "Limited help" gives SPR 1 INF Div & 1 GAR Div, "Help" gives 3 x INF Div. But even then, much as the German or Italian intervention, the intervening power was not (itself) actually at war with the opposing Spain - just had lots of "advisers" and "volunteers" on the ground, as it were.

Basically, the mood back in Britain would not tolerate a formal declaration of war over something that was not seen as Britain's concern, so this is about as far as things could have reasonably been pushed.

Tim
 
That makes sense, thanks a lot. Just thinking out loud, as it were - would I be able to accomplish much the same thing (but without the brutal dissent hit) by trading supplies and divisions with SPR? I've never traded divisions in HoI2 before...
 
Saint-Germain said:
That makes sense, thanks a lot. Just thinking out loud, as it were - would I be able to accomplish much the same thing (but without the brutal dissent hit) by trading supplies and divisions with SPR? I've never traded divisions in HoI2 before...
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Trading them supplies will free up their IC so it will no doubt help, but they may not notice it until fresh units start rolling off the production line, while they really need the troops for that initial landgrab at the start of the SCW. Trading them divisions will accomplish that, but you won't get the divs back or anything when the war is over.
 
Trading them Divisions *might* work - remember , they get them at 1% strength, so they have to supply the IC & MP to reinforce them, which (whilst cheaper than building a new unit) is still going to be a handicap to them. The Free divisions they get from the events are probably more useful to them, overall - though, of course, sending supplies along can hardly hurt !

Tim
 
Keep also in mind that a traded unit will stay 30 days in the deployment pool, dramatically increasing TC for any smaller country. Thus, if you want to trade them units, do it long before the war starts. During the war, you will only mess up their combat efficiency, hurting them instead of helping them.

On the other hand, you could trade some units to Nationalist Spain, overloading their TC... but that could be considered to be very, very gamey... :rolleyes:
 
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