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There really, seriously, needs to be a way to be able to directly intervene in inter-vassal conflicts, at least for high crown authority and up. There is absolutely no good reason for a suitably authoritative regime to accept its underlings openly warring with each-other to forcibly take territory granted to anther by the sovereign. It is also ridiculous that they can only look on helplessly as a vassel is stomped by an internal rebellion.

Just remove the restriction making it so we can only join vassal fighting holy wars and such. Or bring back perpetual realm peace (although put it at a higher tier of authority, medium was too low). I know people are going to say this is too simple, but I feel that the crowning mechanic solves this nicely, with weak or uncrowned rulers unable to stop rebellion until they regain authority, mirroring opportunists taking advantage of the recent upheaval to further their own ends.

PS: I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but if a vassel does rebel because I revoke their unlawful territory and I defeat and imprison them a truce prevents me from revoking their unlawful territory while in jail.
 
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I agree. Example: I am the Byzantine Emperor and my friend is the Strategos of Moesia. But a vassal of his with 2 counties in the Theme decides they want the Theme and revolt for it. I am helpless to watch as my friend gets imprisoned and executed and has his family stripped of all titles, even with King's Peace all the way at the top. Even turning on the council and using Realm Peace does nothing to help. I am honestly tempted to go into the files and remove the vassals thing myself, allowing me to help my friend put down the rebellion... or just copy some code out of the Game of Thrones mod allowing me to command any vassal who declares war on another vassal to stand down or be declared a traitor.
 
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There really, seriously, needs to be a way to be able to directly intervene in inter-vassal conflicts, at least for high crown authority and up. There is absolutely no good reason for a suitably authoritative regime to accept its underlings openly warring with each-other to forcibly take territory granted to anther by the sovereign. It is also ridiculous that they can only look on helplessly as a vassel is stomped by an internal rebellion.

Just remove the restriction making it so we can only join vassal fighting holy wars and such. Or bring back perpetual realm peace (although put it at a higher tier of authority, medium was too low). I know people are going to say this is too simple, but I feel that the crowning mechanic solves this nicely, with weak or uncrowned rulers unable to stop rebellion until they regain authority, mirroring opportunists taking advantage of the recent upheaval to further their own ends.

PS: I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but if a vassel does rebel because I revoke their unlawful territory and I defeat and imprison them a truce prevents me from revoking their unlawful territory while in jail.

You have both enforce realm peace action, and king's peace law (this is available even if you don't have conclave). However this works only on your de jure land.

Second, if true, is a vanilla bug. But I think that depends on whether you have a claim or not.