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This is actually a problem in every Paradox game.

In the message log, the newest messages are at the bottom. While it is nice to be able to scroll up and review old messages, 95% of the time, one wants to see new messages as they arrive.

In every game I ever play, the message log keeps ending up at the top (i.e. the oldest message). It is possible that normal zooming in and out with the mousewheel "catches" the message log. However, whenever the message log is not at very last message, it eventually scrolls all the way to the top.

I have a proposal:
By default, lock the message log at the bottom. Require the player to click something actively to scroll up and review old messages.
 
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Which log do you refer to? Both my message logs seems to be accurate.

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Which log do you refer to? Both my message logs seems to be accurate.

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Thanks for taking a look. I mean the message log at the bottom. I find that usually after 10 minutes of gameplay, the message log is scrolled all the way to the top. I think there are actually two separate issues here:

  1. Zooming in and out with the mousewheel during normal gameplay too easily catches the message log and starts scrolling it.
  2. If the message log is not scrolled all the way to the bottom, it will ride whichever message is displayed all the the way to the top as new messages are added.

I have another idea for a possible fix: whenever a new message is added, have the list automatically scroll to the last item.
 
I think the second issue is WAD. I can see what you mean but I think it would be more frustrating to have the message log jump all over the place when you're trying to read an old message.

I can have a look at that 10 minute issue.
 
I think the second issue is WAD. I can see what you mean but I think it would be more frustrating to have the message log jump all over the place when you're trying to read an old message.

I can have a look at that 10 minute issue.
Again, thanks for taking a look. I am sure that some of this has to do with gameplay style. Personally, I never look at old messages unless the game is paused, and only want to see new messages when the game is running. Ideally, I would like some way to have the message log locked on the newest message when the game is running, regardless of whether I scroll the map while I am zooming.