Confirmed Missing French Localisation

[bedervet]

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Summary​

Missing French Localisation

Description​

Estate names of Byzantium seems to be "emporoi", "klirikoi" and "eugeneis" for all languages except French.
French estates for Byzantium are the default ones: "Marchands", "Clercs", "Aristocrates".

Steps to reproduce​

Compare /your_root/Europa Universalis IV/localisation/king_of_kings_l_french.yml and /your_root/Europa Universalis IV/localisation/king_of_kings_l_german.yml
For the keys estate_emporoi:0, estate_klirikoi:0 and estate_eugeneis:0

Game Version​

1.36.1

OS​

Windows

Additional​

Bug Type​

• Text Localization

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[Qloc_Whirlpool]

Hello there! With your help, we have now confirmed the issue and added it to our database!

 

[Elfryc]

That's actually not a bug, only following the French custom: whenever a term has an exact equivalent in French, the French version is used. Whenever the exact transcription doesn't fit the original meaning, the native word is kept.

That's why you have:

• Greek emporoi = French "marchands"
• Greek klirikoi (which actually should be klerikoi) = French "clercs"
• Greek eugeneis = French "aristocrates"
• Turkish yeŋiçeri = French "janissaires"
• Greek pronoriarios = French "pronoiaire" (holder of a pronoia)

But:

• Greek pronoia(i) left as such (every French historian or similar writing about Byzantium use the word "pronoia" because French hasn't any exact equivalent, as "domaine", "propriété", "don" or "concession" would not convey the same meaning)
• Arabic and Farsi ghilmān = French "ghilmân", as either "garçons" or "jeunes hommes" would not convey the original meaning, and "soldats-esclaves" would be very heavy if used as such.

 

[bedervet]

@Elfryc Thank you for the explanation, I get your point, and I suspected something like that.

But this is not only about conveying the meaning, but also about context and game immersion.

When you use French "aristocrate" to design Greek "eugeneis" it could be any country/tag in the game. Thus breaking immersion.

Personaly, I like eu4 because there is so much content to learn about, I can google ghilmān and learn a ton about it.
But its my humble opinion