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Well having put HOI2 away for a while I was looking at the mods section and saw CORE had been released.

So decided to give it go, clean install with CORE 0.3, guess I missed the 0.31 update? Anyway Im playing a 0.3 game at the moment.

First let me say I really like the CORE mod and what its done. Im enjoying all the events and, new naval stuff etc...

A couple of things are going to make my first game very easy though. One of them is the UK's lack of planes, specifically fighters/inters. After Vichy France Ive been trying to do a Battle of Britian, but the UK has only 4 inter's. Im not sure why they havent built more? Needless to say its a rather one sided fight in the air at the moment? No plans of doing a sealion, I prefer to leave england alone on the land.

The other issue thats making me want to start a new game is that Russia in early 39 DOW'd Japan. After some early victories they have since been pushed back and Japan is now taking some big chunks of eastern russia. They have only one division/ province on my border with them. I was thinking of starting Barbarossa early because at this point I could probably drive right into moscow unopposed... Its only going to get worse for the soviets as time goes on. They dont seem to be building much in the way of ground forces according to my intel, either that or they lost alot in a encirclement from japan.

Is this normal for Russia to DOW japan (I didnt ask japan to join the pack) and for the UK to be so weak in the air?
 
Yes, a weak UK air is normal. Considering that the UK only begins with 2 interceptors, they did build a few. But the UK has the choice to build air, or build ground, and given the relatively small size of both the UK's economy, and its ground forces, favoring building land over air is a wise choice. My first four games were as the Germans. My next two games have been as the UK. There is a vast difference between these two industrial nations.

BTW, in my last game as Germany, the Soviets signed the Bitter Peace in Dec. '40. France fell in Nov. '39, the UK in the spring of '40. By the beginning of summer '41 two-thirds of Canada and the U.S. were under German control, as was 80% of India. At the pace things were going, the entire world would have been under fascist control long before I could complete my fast-tracked nuclear and rocket research. Germany is simply a monster (which isn't helped by the AI being weak, regardless of what nation the AI plays).
 
Thats kinda dissapointing about the UK's build priority... They should be putting priority into fighters for the first few years I would think.

I would even say the AI needs an event that gives them a decent RAF after the fall of France?
 
The Russian Dowing Japan is WAD, though it it's one of the ahistoric, low percentage outcomes of the Russo-Japanese tensions chain, IIRC. Oh, and 0.31 should make a difference in upping the Soviet strength for one. We fixed a bug which was hurting the Soviets particularly.
 
Hagar said:
The Russian Dowing Japan is WAD, though it it's one of the ahistoric, low percentage outcomes of the Russo-Japanese tensions chain, IIRC. Oh, and 0.31 should make a difference in upping the Soviet strength for one. We fixed a bug which was hurting the Soviets particularly.
What was the bug?
 
Simon_Jester said:
What was the bug?
An unwanted 25% penalty in upgrade costs for reserves, IIRC.
 
Well that would explain why they havent increased much in the way of ground forces.

I think I'll be starting a new game, this current one wont be much of a challenge with so few soviet divisions in the west.

0.31 is a full install, not just a patch right?
 
A full install, with the exception of the COREd graphics (i.e. similar to the 0.30 installer). We've decided to distribute those in a separate installer (apart from the basic graphics in the CORE installer), due to their size.

For the graphics you can use either of the installers in the graphics download section on www.terranova.dk.
 
Hagar said:
A full install, with the exception of the COREd graphics (i.e. similar to the 0.30 installer). We've decided to distribute those in a separate installer (apart from the basic graphics in the CORE installer), due to their size.

For the graphics you can use either of the installers in the graphics download section on www.terranova.dk.

Thanks HAGAR, one more question. Do I just un-install CORE or should I have new clean install of HOI2, DD etc...

Also Im using your GFX pack as well as the icon pack, will this cause any issue's when un-installing CORE?
 
Piggy said:
Thanks HAGAR, one more question. Do I just un-install CORE or should I have new clean install of HOI2, DD etc...

Also Im using your GFX pack as well as the icon pack, will this cause any issue's when un-installing CORE?
I never bothered with uninstalling so far. I just reinstall. I always tended to be a bit lazy. :rolleyes:
 
Having started a game with germany, I noticed very strange event/ai behavior. Anschluss and Munich went fine, but in march/april 1939 I demanded the remaining CZE for me (neither tiso nor partitioning with hungary) and after they refused I was forced to dow them. So WW2 broke out some month earlier as expected as I was dow'ed by the allies one day after that. Now the strange things started: I overran yugoslawia, hungary, denmark, sweden, norway, benelux and started clearing out france while staying neutral to poland in hope for a molotov-ribbentrop pact to save my eastern border. But in fact, the udssr dow'ed poland and the allies dow'ed the udssr Oo. I was also being asked by nat spain, portugal and greece (!) whether they could join the axis. I refused all of these. Shortly after that, I found out that Italy was already part of the axis, and they neither asked me nor there was an event.
 
I think the only way that may have happened is if Italy was declared war upon by the allies or SOV. There is some kind of auto-join relating to dows like that. I cant guarantee that is what happened but might be worth checking the history log for.
 
Italy & the USSR seem to get along very badly, I find, and often declare War on each other, in spite of having no common frontier, etc.

Greece, Portugal & Nat Spain usually seem to ask to join the Axis after the USSR is at war, it seems, as well.

Tim
 
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I had the same problem. In my UK campaign, after USSR declared war on Germany in Feb 1941, Greece and Portugal joined the Axis shortly after as well. Luckily Spain was Republican and stayed neutral but it stretched my forces throughout the Mediteranean.
 
As far as I am concerned the industrial strength between Germany and USSR isn't very balanced nor hostorically correct.

Judging from two 0.30 games, both on VH, playing each side once I easily overran the USSR with Germany in 1941 whereas the USSR har a very though time keeping alive.

The USSR game infact was with 0.3.1.5 and no lend lease events fired.

Germany had almost no air force whereas I had lots of interceptors. Maybe thats partly why it went wrong but I feel Germany is overpowered.
 
CORE is not meant for play on VH - playing on VH will cripple many nations from the start. Germany is one of the few nations that can cope with the penalty, since it starts out (currently) at a state of Partial Mobilisation. The USSR certainly can't cope with it, I would suggest.

Tim