Someone needs to check their reading comprehension, since I explicitly mentioned faction packs. And need I point out that some of the BIG features of the Old Gods and Sword of Islam were playable Muslims and pagans, something that modders had already done before then? And which DLCs for TW are needed to make it playable?That is not true at all. Most of TW DLCs add factions (which are already there and playable by mods, they are just demanding more money for the same thing). Or they add units. Both of which are fairly game changing if you ask me, especially since AI gets those DLC units too. Now tell me how changing the sprite of an army in a Paradox game compare to that. Sure, they release expansion DLCs too that change gameplay very much, but not every single one of them is required to make the game playable.
Rome II's empire management more involved than RTW? This is utter BS. Rome II's campaign was utterly boring. Now it is still slightly inferior to RTW's campaign (which wins because of family tree management and traits and retinues), and the old game is still ahead. And that's not rose tinted glasses either.
Before jumping at me, did you even try to compare the release state of CK2/EU4 and Rome II? Rome II was a pathetic joke that still fails to recover much despite all those patches. I still face glitched siege towers, ladders and units that get stuck at the walls, or an AI who knows nothing of defending settlements or conducting diplomacy. CK2 meanwhile has major bugs and poor/lazy development which results in restrictions, but still the rest of the gameplay is excellent compared to Rome II.
Yes, it is more involved. You actually managed traits and retinues? Because while I liked when I got certain ones, I never tried to. Meanwhile, in RTW2, it actually requires effort to balance public order, food, and income generation in a settlement. While RTW one, the answer to every problem was, "Encourage growth until you reach huge city, then maximize taxes. Ignore public order, its better to just let the city rebel and then exterminate the population when you retake it." The family tree, similarly, looked cool but could be safely ignored without any problems.
And no, since I didn't play CK2, EU4, or RTW2 until months after release, just as I didn't play HO3 until years after its release and so didn't experience the shitstorm surrounding it either. I've only played them in paatched states, and I've been enjoying RTW2 more than CK2 for awhile now.