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Information​

I have verifed my game files (Steam only)​

Yes

I have disabled all mods​

Yes

I am running the latest game update​

Yes

Required​

Summary​

Players who have Way of the Nomad + Zealous cannot demand conversion from others

Description​

If the player has the traits "Way of the Nomad" and "Zealous," the player cannot use the Demand Conversion interaction on their courtiers, nor the Attempt to Convert interaction on rulers if they are playing a landless adventurer. There is no tooltip explaining why; it just says "All of these:" in red text with no further explanation.

The file 00_religious_triggers.txt has the following text under the valid demand conversion conditions:

scope:actor = {
NAND = {
has_trait = nomadic_philosophy
has_trait = zealous
}
}

It seems totally nonsensical to me that a nomad can normally demand conversion, but NOT if they are zealous. If anything, a zealous character should be more likely to demand that others convert. Is it supposed to be scope:recipient instead of scope:actor? That would make more sense; I would understand if it was impossible to demand conversion FROM a zealous, unruly nomad. Either way, there should be a tooltip added.

I disabled my mods, verified my files, and started a new game as a zealous khagan of the Kirghiz with a faith that isn't typical of the steppe. If you want to test it real quick you can open my save file and attempt to demand conversion from my court physician Poshayka.

Steps to reproduce​

1. Be a character who has the traits "Way of the Nomad" and "Zealous."
2. Attempt to use the "Demand Conversion" interaction on any courtier who doesn't belong to your faith, and see that it is greyed-out with no explanation.

Game Version​

game version: Branch: release/1.16.3 Commit: 70e607434e84913f163af1d5d2a9b3314ebf2f10 Timestamp: 2025-06-02 12:25:28 +0000 Commit Number: 1103 MP Checksum: 4638 clausewitz: titus/release/1.16.3 990db80f5ad8be8a7646563b12a24179742163db jomini: titus/release/1.16.3 990db80f5ad8be8a7646563b12a24179742163db external_libs: develop d55e7f99ed41aa225647b764ef2830bef8fe02fd

Platform​

Windows

Additional Information​

Affected Feature​

  • Gameplay

Save Game​

View attachment Khagan_Tortogul_of_the_Kirghiz_Khanate_867_01_13.ck3

Other Attachments​

cannotdemandconversion.png

 
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