Roman empire in Iberian Struggle problem

[Searinox]

Hello, good morning.

I'm currently playing a game with the Roman Empire, which I started with Byzantium, and I'm having a problem. I'd like to know how to get involved in the Iberian struggle, but despite I look at many sites, I haven't found anything clear. Could someone help me solve this problem?

 

[Quuaddib]

I hope this helps, it's from the Wiki (Link):

So your best shot would probably be to convert culture and religion to one that is already involved. You'll definitely have to move your realm capital to Iberia, too.

 

[Searinox]

I hope this helps, it's from the Wiki (Link):

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So your best shot would probably be to convert culture and religion to one that is already involved. You'll definitely have to move your realm capital to Iberia, too.

So, in the game, it says that 80 per cent of Iberia must be of your culture and your faith. Now, in the wiki says that 80 of the counties of your culture and faith must be in iberia... I dont know... I'm converting all of iberia to greek, I will see if the description in the game is the legit one or maybe I missunderstand it. Thanks for the help

 

[tribnia]

They should make an event to make the Roman emperor always involved like Caliph in Iranian Intermezzo IMO. If the player has devoted a lot of time to reclaim Rome, there shouldn't be extra obstacles to slow him down.

 

[Quuaddib]

FWIW, in the game files it says:

# A culture or faith becomes involved if 80% of the total number of counties belonging to it are inside the struggle region.

 

[Łabądź]

So, in the game, it says that 80 per cent of Iberia must be of your culture and your faith. Now, in the wiki says that 80 of the counties of your culture and faith must be in iberia... I dont know... I'm converting all of iberia to greek, I will see if the description in the game is the legit one or maybe I missunderstand it. Thanks for the help

Yeah, Wiki is correct and the in game description is not and it has been that way since the Fate of Iberia DLC released, so if you want to become involved you need to move your capital to Iberia and then convert to one of the culture AND religion already involved,. You can create a new culture and new religion but that's hardly a solution if you have a lot of land outside Iberia.

 

[Searinox]

So... I must move my capital to iberia, convert to catholicism and andalusian (i.e.) in order to end the struggle?

 

[tribnia]

So... I must move my capital to iberia, convert to catholicism and andalusian (i.e.) in order to end the struggle?

Or you could make Italy and Occitan de jure vassals of Roman Empire and then control all Aragorn, then you'll get access to Iberian Foothold.

 

[ShepherdOfCats]

FWIW, in the game files it says: # A culture or faith becomes involved if 80% of the total number of counties belonging to it are inside the struggle region.

Unless you're a landless adventurer, it's 0%, haha.

I stopped somewhere in Persia as a Han Chinese adventurer and instantly became a Detractor of the Caliph.

Kind of funny, you know? Never even met the guy, stopping to buy food, and instantly I decided that the Caliph sucks.

It stayed with me for the rest of my life. I would return through Tibet, back to the Guiyi Circuit, telling stories of the Caliph, and how one visit to his realm told me everything I needed to know about him.

 

[Bisonmask]

They should make an event to make the Roman emperor always involved like Caliph in Iranian Intermezzo IMO. If the player has devoted a lot of time to reclaim Rome, there shouldn't be extra obstacles to slow him down.

Iberia has changed since Rome lost it, you shouldn't be able to just waltz in and ignore the ongoing crisis

 

[tribnia]

Iberia has changed since Rome lost it, you shouldn't be able to just waltz in and ignore the ongoing crisis

A restored Rome IS the biggest crisis Iberia may face in most games. If a belligent emperor just conquered Italy, Egypt and Syria, how would any Iberian rulers believe he'll leave the peninsular alone?

 

[Delterius]

I stopped somewhere in Persia as a Han Chinese adventurer and instantly became a Detractor of the Caliph.

Kind of funny, you know? Never even met the guy, stopping to buy food, and instantly I decided that the Caliph sucks.

you arrived in that place and its a mess. the caliph must suck ass.

 

[tribnia]

Unless you're a landless adventurer, it's 0%, haha.

I stopped somewhere in Persia as a Han Chinese adventurer and instantly became a Detractor of the Caliph.

Kind of funny, you know? Never even met the guy, stopping to buy food, and instantly I decided that the Caliph sucks.

It stayed with me for the rest of my life. I would return through Tibet, back to the Guiyi Circuit, telling stories of the Caliph, and how one visit to his realm told me everything I needed to know about him.

"How could the caliph forbids me from buying pork? He must be an awful guy."
----Nameless Han traveler, 9th century.

 

[Willy Waggler]

A restored Rome IS the biggest crisis Iberia may face in most games. If a belligent emperor just conquered Italy, Egypt and Syria, how would any Iberian rulers believe he'll leave the peninsular alone?

I'm actually all up for an actual Roman Empire "crisis" being introduced instead of that stupid hard mode.
Like abrahamic RE creates mild situation where mediterranean rulers become alarmed.
And in case of Hellenic RE, all bets, coats and gloves are off, and muslim and catholics unite against existential threat.

 

[ShepherdOfCats]

you arrived in that place and its a mess. the caliph must suck ass.

ROFL. It kinda was. He was blobbing into India and it was very dangerous to travel due to low control everywhere.

In all seriousness though, I'm thinking it's unintended because as far as I can tell, there's no way to change your stance as a detractor or supporter. It just stays with you for the rest of your life.

Never again, lol, that place sucked.

 

[InsidiousMage]

there's no way to change your stance as a detractor or supporter

There is actually a decision you can take but you have to be in the Iranian region to take it.

It just stays with you for the rest of your life.

The traits will last even after the struggle ends though you can't get the traits after it ends.

 

[ShepherdOfCats]

There is actually a decision you can take but you have to be in the Iranian region to take it.

As a landless adventurer?

I must have overlooked it. I just assumed it wasn't intended for adventurers to be involved. (Especially not Han Taoists)

That's why it seemed so funny to me. I just showed up and the game is like, "You hate the Caliph." Um . . . alright.

I never even got to choose a stance. It just automatically decided that me and the Caliph wouldn't get along.

 

[Delterius]

As a landless adventurer?

Maybe what's unintentional is getting the modifier as non muslim? Because the decision does show up for me when I arrive as a caravaneer. And I can take it for some free points too.

That said I was joking but this is one area where the simulation in CK3 works really well. Even as Bedouin I often couldn't do high stakes trade in 867 Iran because of what a mess it is.

 

[Bisonmask]

A restored Rome IS the biggest crisis Iberia may face in most games. If a belligent emperor just conquered Italy, Egypt and Syria, how would any Iberian rulers believe he'll leave the peninsular alone?

I mean the ongoing social crisis. If an outside force conquers the peninsula and does nothing to resolve the religious strife ongoing in the region I'd expect the outcome to be similar to what happened the first time Rome didn't properly resolve religious strife within it's borders

 

[High Speed Flying Gladius]

Well presumably you can just use the Roman Borders CB and End the Struggle with the "Iberian Foothhold" decision, no?