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Ok, I bought the game a week ago and it's great, except for (you've guest it) the constant crashing back to desktop. I've read through all of the advice on the forum - updated driver, turning off the music and background programs - but I'm still lucky if I get 3 months of continuous gameplay. The only thing I've not done is load WS2setup and that's because everytime I'v tried I get and error message - ERROR : unsupported Windows 9X version (4,10), cancelling setup (in the error log file). My OS is Windows 98, is that the problem? I'm down to saving every 10 days but even thats not enough and I'm facing the reluctant conclusion that I'm going to have to give up on it. I'm not angry, just frustrated as this looks such a good game. Is there anything else I should be doing?
 
Hmm I am also running it on W98 First Edition.
I suggest doing a Windows update from Microsoft site. Then install the latest EU 1.09 patch
 
Uninstall the game, defrag your disk, reinstall and patch to 1.09. If that helps, or running with no music helps (ie it takes longer to CTD) then you are probably short of RAM for the game. Also running the game slower usually helps.

I believe the ws2setup file is for win95 only.
 
Thanks for the suggestions.

Unfortunately, so far I have :
Updated my display drivers,
Updated Windows 98
De-Fragged the hard drive
Switched off the background programs
Reduced the supplemental cache size to 470Kilobytes (I know but I'm getting deparate, i'll try anything)
Downloaded 1_09UK and installed it
Used the no music option
Played on the slowest possible speed setting.

However, I'm still getting periodic (routhly monthly of game time) crashes. I agree that Ws2 is probably only for Windows95. I wonder, given the fact that I read elsewhere on the boards that someon had found that the game operated better on an older system, whether the game is optimised for Windows95?

I don't think it's a memory size problem, my system has 128 RAM and a hard disk big enough to make defragging a major undertaking.

Anyway, unless someone can think of anything else or is aware that a further patch is due soon to address the fundamental fragility of the game, I may have to face the fact that I'm not going to be able to get anything worth while out of EU. The frequency of the crashes are making it unplayable.
 
I'm running the game on WinME with 128mb RAM, and I don't have anymore problems since last time I re-installed the game (I'm in 1771 and I had no crash since the beginning)

Here is a link to a post by Uglyduck about correctly uninstalling the game (windows does a poor job)

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11284

Follow his advice and re-install the game, without any user-made scenario.

Also, do you have the latest Direct X version?
 
1771! Oh the envy!

Thanks for the suggestion - I'll give it a go, but yes I have got the latest version of Direct X.

I have been investigating the contents of the game CD and noticed that there are some AVI video files - presumably these are the intros for the game. The reason I didn't notice these before is that they don't play when I start up the game. I've tried to play them through Windows Media Player but not to much success.

I wonder whether I'm missing some small but vital piece of software somewhere which not only prevents the intros from playing but might be responsible for the crashing? I don't know what it might be as I do try to be very careful when deleting items. Any ideas anyone?
 
If the AVI files dont play thro Media Player just by double clicking them then it appears you have a corrupt installation.
As the only thing you havent tried is to uninstall then reinstall then I echo Andrew and Viper and urge you to do so.
 
I definitely think you are on to something with that AVI thing. How about visiting the cnet Update site http://catchup.cnet.com/catchup/cu/index/index.html and see if it picks up any updates you are missing. Plus my original idewa about reinstalling after the defrag.
 
Thanks for the ideas.

I think I've cracked it - or more to the point my Windows Media Player has!

I've been fiddling around with the avi movies and all of a sudden the Windows Media Player decides I don't have the required codec and god bless it, it connected itself up to the web and downloaded the sucker.

Freeow! I'm into the game - only the occaisional crash after very heavy usage.

Me happy now.:D
 
XLNT ! Thanks for the post back.
 
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