When I mouse over the pope's opinion of my monarch from the church tab, I get one number. When I go to the pope's portrait screen and check again, I get another. The two are sometimes similar, sometimes wildly off by as much as 40 or more. Yet both are supposed to reflect the current papal opinion of my ruler. Usually, my court chaplain reports great success repeatedly with the pope, and the pope's portrait will show a much improved opinion number. But I think the number under the church tab may be the one that's used for excommunications and invasions, since I never get a "Yes" from a pope even with a 75 (under the portrait). And the reasons for turning me down usually include a fairly negative view of my ruler.
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