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@trespoe: I did go back and looked at Kaetje's votes day 1 yesterday and she actually casted several votes that put people in danger and had a few votes cast on her that put her in danger. So there is info on the Frenchies from the most unlikely place of all, the day 1 votes! :) Unfortunately a lot of the players she interacted with are dead and have later subbed back in as someone else making it a bit confusing.

IIRC Kaetje votings indicated that Ironhead wasn't in any pack (both Kaetje and randy voted him) but he is dead so, Sedracus was an unlikely Frenchie but he too is dead (but subbed back as someone), reis91 and Adamus looked slightly unFrench and at least Adamus is still alive (the reis you see is a sub). Even EURO might possibly be considered unFrench but it was a midday vote that changed later. k-59 I think was clearly not French day 1 and he is alive (and still himself, I think).

Bloody subs! I don't know who is who anymore. So reis is Ciry now?
 
Without knowing if there is a third pack or not I think the best way to proceed is to at those statistically most likely. As trespoe said, the voting material is thinner than it appears, as only one baddie has been lynched without an outing. All we can do is narrow the list as best we can.

With the JL spokesman out of commission for now, that is the best way forward.


5. Eternaly_Lost
7. marty99
9. Jopi
11. Rysz, subbed by Tornadoli v2.0
12. Lemeard, subbed by Sedracus v2.0
18. trespoe
20. White Daimon
21. enkuush
29. The_SPLIT
30. Ciryandor, subbed by reis91 v2.0

Those are the remaining players who have not only received no attention (except Torn and Split to a lesser extent) but who also did not cast a meaningful vote against Slinky, the only baddie who was lynched without an outing. Again, we are only looking for the statistically most likely. We need to narrow the list, and that is what we are doing here.

Now lets take this list and see if we can narrow it further and pick the best target using votes from known baddies. I will work on that tonight and in the morning.
 
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unvote Ciryandor

vote Reis91v2.0

fixed.

Edit: and what I mean about yesterday's votes is that with TNT's announcement for Slinky or hdk, and the determination to tie them/ run them up, why wouldn't a frenchie gain street cred by sacrificing a cultist?

or am I too bloodthirsty and willing to throw players under the bus when I play a baddie so I see others doing it when I play a goodie?
 
johho888 said:
@trespoe: I did go back and looked at Kaetje's votes day 1 yesterday and she actually casted several votes that put people in danger and had a few votes cast on her that put her in danger. So there is info on the Frenchies from the most unlikely place of all, the day 1 votes! :) Unfortunately a lot of the players she interacted with are dead and have later subbed back in as someone else making it a bit confusing.
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yep. I saw that too. the original Reis was the 2nd in votes that day and was killed the next.
 
trespoe said:
Edit: and what I mean about yesterday's votes is that with TNT's announcement for Slinky or hdk, and the determination to tie them/ run them up, why wouldn't a frenchie gain street cred by sacrificing a cultist?

or am I too bloodthirsty and willing to throw players under the bus when I play a baddie so I see others doing it when I play a goodie?
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I certainly would have if I was a Frenchie but also we mustn't rule out the possibility that both Slinky and the_hdk were/are Frenchies.
 
AOK. 11 said:
Without knowing if there is a third pack or not I think the best way to proceed is to at those statistically most likely. As trespoe said, the voting material is thinner than it appears, as only one baddie has been lynched without an outing. All we can do is narrow the list as best we can.

With the JL spokesman out of commission for now, that is the best way forward.


5. Eternaly_Lost
7. marty99
9. Jopi
11. Rysz, subbed by Tornadoli v2.0
12. Lemeard, subbed by Sedracus v2.0
17. k-59
18. trespoe
20. White Daimon
21. enkuush
29. The_SPLIT
30. Ciryandor, subbed by reis91 v2.0

Those are the remaining players who have not only received no attention (except Torn and Split to a lesser extent) but who also did not cast a meaningful vote against Slinky, the only baddie who was lynched without an outing. Again, we are only looking for the statistically most likely. We need to narrow the list, and that is what we are doing here.

Now lets take this list and see if we can narrow it further and pick the best target using votes from known baddies. I will work on that tonight and in the morning.
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Um, I was ran up with a wolf day 1, and my vote on Slinky tied him that 7 with the_HDK. If that is not a meanful vote what is?
 
k-59 said:
Um, I was ran up with a wolf day 1, and my vote on Slinky tied him that 7 with the_HDK. If that is not a meanful vote what is?
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It most certainly was a meaningful vote. I missed that as I was doing a quick overview. Thank you for the correction.

Sorry about that.
 
Good stuff from Day 1. I selected the votecount from 1 hour till the original deadline, and continued it forward. There wasn't a votecount at the end of regulation time (or when some thought it was to end; the officials added more time on for laggy forums) but Kaetje was leading at that time. The votes really changed in 12 minutes at the 1 hour to go mark. The votes on Kaetje disappeared and Tornadoli came from behind to win the Lyncher's Cup.

Votecount: almost 3 hours til deadline

k-59 (4) - Ciryandor, kaetje, Eternaly_Lost, johho888
kaetje (3) - Sedracus, EUROO7, reis91
Ironhead 5 (2) - jonti-h, punkbob
Paendrag (2) - Jopi, OrangeYoshi
White Daimon (2) - Adamus, THE_SPLIT
OrangeYoshi (2) - trespoe, marty99
punkbob (2) - Tornadoli, AOK.11
Ciryandor - Trinitrotoluen
Tornadoli - Rysz, k-59
Rysz - White Daimon
Trinitrotoluen - randakar
THE_SPLIT - enkhuush
Adamus - Ironhead 5
reis91 - Paendrag

Not Voted: the_hdk, Lurken, Lemeard, Slinky

Votecount: 1 hour 2 min til deadline

kaetje (4) - Sedracus, EUROO7, reis91, k-59
reis91 (4) - Paendrag, Tornadoli, Slinky, kaetje
Ironhead 5 (3) - jonti-h, punkbob, randakar
k-59 (3) - Ciryandor, Eternaly_Lost, johho888
Paendrag (2) - Jopi, OrangeYoshi
White Daimon (2) - Adamus, THE_SPLIT
OrangeYoshi (2) - trespoe, marty99
punkbob - AOK.11
Ciryandor - Trinitrotoluen
Tornadoli - Rysz
Rysz - White Daimon
THE_SPLIT - enkhuush
randakar - Ironhead 5

Not Voted: the_hdk, Lurken, Lemeard


Votecount: 50 min til deadline

Tornadoli (5) - Rysz, AOK.11, EUROO7, marty99, Lurken
reis91 (4) - Paendrag, Slinky, kaetje, Tornadoli
Ironhead 5 (4) - jonti-h, punkbob, randakar, Sedracus
randakar (3) - Ironhead 5, reis91, Adamus
k-59 (3) - Ciryandor, Eternaly_Lost, johho888
Paendrag (2) - Jopi, OrangeYoshi
OrangeYoshi - trespoe
Ciryandor - Trinitrotoluen
Rysz - White Daimon
THE_SPLIT - enkhuush
kaetje - k-59
White Daimon - THE_SPLIT

Not Voted: the_hdk, Lemeard


Votecount: Deadline


Tornadoli (9) - Rysz, AOK.11 EUROO7, marty99, Lurken, Ironhead 5, Lemeard, randakar, reis91
Ironhead 5 (4) - jonti-h, punkbob, Sedracus, the_hdk
reis91 (4) - Paendrag, Slinky, kaetje, trespoe
k-59 (3) - Ciryandor, Eternaly_Lost, johho888
Paendrag (2) - Jopi, OrangeYoshi
randakar (2) - Ironhead 5, Adamus
Ciryandor - Trinitrotoluen
Rysz - White Daimon
THE_SPLIT - enkhuush
kaetje - k-59
White Daimon - THE_SPLIT

Not Voted: None

why, oh, why the vote switch to Tornadoli? And why was it pursued so hard? He can be a "tosser" at times, but didn't seem a wolf to me. I thought Reis was acting harder to be a wolf than Tornadoli.

Unvote Reis91 v2.0

vote Lurken

at 50 minutes to go, he put Torn over the top with 5 votes.
 
enkhuush said:
With many v2.0, it is certainly hard to make vote.

Edited: Placeholder vote.

Vote Marty99.
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Better make that a new post, editing in a vote is not allowed.
 
Last night I voted Slinky at '59. The rationale was

Wait till the last minute, seeing if anyone pulls a Tornadoli and TIE the_hdk and Slinky. Voting Slinky to prevent a votesnipe.
Why did I not tie the_hdk, you might ask? Well, between the two, Slinky had some suspicion on him due to the first few days. I could not find similar material on the_hdk, who was mostly AWOL. Yes, that is a valid reason to vote him, but not when the village is under heavy pressure by the baddies. Also, with my vote on the_hdk, there could be a snipe to save Slinky.

I'll support the same explanation Cyriandor already provided for the other days, a f**ked up timezone.
 
enkhuush said:
Vote Slinky.
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Although voting baddies are commendable, Slinky the cultist is alreay dead so lynching him again won't really help. ;)
 
Votecount - 11 hours 21 minutes until deadline

Lurken - trespoe
the_hdk - Sedracus v2.0
enkhuush - reis91 v2.0

Not Voted: johho888, the_hdk*, Lurken, Eternaly_Lost, marty99, Jopi*, Trinitrotoluen, Tornadoli V2.0, Adamus, k-59, White Daimon*, enkuush, AOK. 11, EUROO7, The_SPLIT,

Indeed, both of enkhuush's votes were invalid :p
If he doesn't vote again though, I won't count it as a missed vote, due to him being in a crazy time zone.​
 
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