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Sedracus said:
AOK was cleared by the Judicial Spokesman, remember?

Let's see if we can TIE Torn and Reis. Math says we policemen are most likely outnumbered by the criminal scum.
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Woo!

Tie lynch?! Ties are bad for the village, unless the both targets are confirmed as baddies.

Sedracus, you are now equally suspect in my eyes, as much as Torn already are. Since I don't want a total bandwagon, I'm gonna vote for you.

Vote Sedracus
 
AOK is acting odd so far, not really in line with his usual behaviour, I don't like the way he casually voted for enkhuush for bandwagoning without considering anyone else (many other people bandwagoned). However, reis91 also thinks he is a wolf so therefore he must be a villager, I'm confused.

I know this is making a 5-way tie, but you do realise it can and will be broken before the deadline, chances are many/majority of people left are baddies so we have to maximise information by putting as much people under the spotlight as possible. The more 'up there' the great chance one is a dutch or french (possibly even montague) wolf. I am willing to vote AOK for the moment to do this. Unfortunately I probably won't be able to analyse at all today.

Vote AOK. 11

I think the vote stands thus:

Tornadoli - 2; enkhuush, sedracus
ries91 - 2; EUROO7, Trespoe
Sedracus - 2; Tornadoli, Lurken
enkhuush - 2; EUROO7, AOK. 11
AOK. 11 - 2; reis91, marty99
 
reis91 said:
Make it bigger. I don't mind going out in a glorious 6 or 7-way TIE. And Lemeard would have an orgasm.
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6 or 7 would be too much. And this isn't random, those five are among the most suspicious in the game, at least from my perspective. Going by johho's opinion of the pack set-up and my instinct, I'm pretty confident at least 2 of them are baddies, quite possibly more.
 
I am sorry I have not been more useful. I had set aside some time to do a full analysis over the weekend, but this forum's performance precluded me from doing anything. I do not have hours on end to spend looking through this game and fight this f**king lag-infested forum.

I am not a good lynch. TNT made that clear. TNT's recommended targets were both baddies. He recommended that I, on the other hand, not be lynched.

If I get some time and this forum cooperates, I will do my best to make myself useful. This lag is killing the game. It can take an hour to get through 10 pages. :(
 
AOK. 11 said:
I am sorry I have not been more useful. I had set aside some time to do a full analysis over the weekend, but this forum's performance precluded me from doing anything. I do not have hours on end to spend looking through this game and fight this f**king lag-infested forum.
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We've all had this problem, and it really does threaten to kill what could have been a very good game. It's just that I'm reading through Warthogs and your behaviour is rather similar :p

I am not a good lynch. TNT made that clear. TNT's recommended targets were both baddies. He recommended that I, on the other hand, not be lynched.
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He said at the time not to lynch you, hell I would have said that in his place as it is senseless to lynch you blindly like some people were trying to do. I assume TNT isn't so much of an idiot to protect someone so important like that, although you may be a scanned villager. However, I feel you are still a decent person to run up.

EDIT: Just found the post in question, in case anyone is wondering

Trinitrotoluen said:
Please no AOK - wagon today.

Otherwise feel free to pursue your favorite suspects.

For now I will

vote Sedracus.
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For the moment, I'll keep my vote on anyway, if nothing else just to remind everyone AOK isn't remotely cleared.

If I get some time and this forum cooperates, I will do my best to make myself useful. This lag is killing the game. It can take an hour to get through 10 pages. :(
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Indeed, it seems to be back again, perhaps the GM could extend the deadline again if it continues.
 
reis91 said:
Wrong. I did not prevent anything. And I did not see Torn wanting a TIE between them.
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Wrong. Torn did want a tie. He unvoted hdk post 1042, k-59 votes SLinky, syber immediately votes hdk again (post 1043) to make the tie. He was constantly shifting his vote around to accomodate others (split, euroo7) on that entire page (53). You make this comment :
I probably will not be back in time for the deadline. My vote stays where it is, I will have nothing to do with these pseudo-JL shenanigans. If by any chance you would like to switch to my target, I'd be happy. But you'll probably just mindlessly follow AOK or EURO again...
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post 1063. At that point it was tied 7-7. Euro switched and then your vote at the deadline (#1089) later sealed the deal on Slinky, and made sure a single vote would not make a tie. Someone still could have unvoted Slinky to hdk, but you left no time for anyone to do it. A perfect vote-snipe.

sorry, but that looks bad all around. A vote snipe? and after you claim to not coming back for the psuedo-JL. and now you pin it on Torn?

Torn loves ties. Look at his record this game. That boy is Lemeard's wet dream come true. Some factoids about his play style this game: Day 1 he made 9 votes out of 63 total for the day. He made 6 on day 2 out of 45 total votes. 1 out of every seven votes belong to him. He votes more than some players have commented.
 
marty99 said:
AOK is acting odd so far, not really in line with his usual behaviour, I don't like the way he casually voted for enkhuush for bandwagoning without considering anyone else (many other people bandwagoned). However, reis91 also thinks he is a wolf so therefore he must be a villager, I'm confused.

I know this is making a 5-way tie, but you do realise it can and will be broken before the deadline, chances are many/majority of people left are baddies so we have to maximise information by putting as much people under the spotlight as possible. The more 'up there' the great chance one is a dutch or french (possibly even montague) wolf. I am willing to vote AOK for the moment to do this. Unfortunately I probably won't be able to analyse at all today.

Vote AOK. 11

I think the vote stands thus:

Tornadoli - 2; enkhuush, sedracus
ries91 - 2; EUROO7, Trespoe
Sedracus - 2; Tornadoli, Lurken
enkhuush - 2; EUROO7, AOK. 11
AOK. 11 - 2; reis91, marty99
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I made this analysis yesterday at a time when the forum wasn't quite as laggy but from that all 5 candidates look like good lynches. Note that the_hdk being a Dutch wolf wasn't known then.

2. johho888
(no info)

3. the_hdk
(no info)

4. Lurken as Johnny
(not Monague because dangerous vote on randakar #446, randy made argument against him in #610)

5. Eternaly_Lost
(no info)

7. marty99
(no info)

9. Jopi
(no info)

10. Trinitrotoluen
(not Montague because outed randakar)

11. Rysz as O.J. Simpson subbed by Tornadoli v2.0
(no info)

12. Lemeard as Eric Lassard subbed by Sedracus v2.0
(no info)

13. Adamus as Franks gun holster
(not French because tied Kaetje #228)
(not Mongatue because made randy 3-4 #347)

17. k-59 as Adrian Monk
(not French because votes by Kaetje #215 against Kaetje #272, wrong deadline on day 1 also seems to clear him)

18. trespoe as Inspector Kemp subbed by Syber_sid v2.0
(not Montague because randy votes brings him close pre#489)
(not French because Kaetje argument in #565 and vote in #618)

20. White Daimon
(no info)

21. enkuush
(not French?, early vote on Paendrag #877)

22. AOK. 11 as Agent Norman Stansfield
(no info)

27. EUROO7 as Eric Clapton
(not French - vote on Kaetje 3-4 #266, wrong deadline on day 1 also seems to clear him, vote on Kaetje #401, vote by Kaetje brings him in lead 3-1 #422,)
(not Montague - vote by randakar #404 and Paendrag #507)

29. The_SPLIT
(not French? early vote by Paendrag #877)

30. Ciryandor as Lt Horatio Caine subbed by reis91 v2.0
(no info)

Some other interesting posts
#657 - randy says he cleared E_L, me and Lurken. Why us?
#728 - Kaetje says that of me, trespoe, I5 and Sedracus v2.0(?) she thinks I am good and the rest are bad. Why?
 
There are too many variables here for a simple villager to work it out: Three packs, and a weird hunt pattern to boot. Hmmh, probably the best for us would be to kill an innocent villager so that we could get a sub for TNT :D If there's anything left of the JL, that is. The Seer's death last night smells like the work of a sorceror. If the sorceror has connected with multiple packs, then he doesn't have too many scan targets to choose from, assuming he's been given all the names in a pack. Kaetje's role makes me wonder if the other packs have a SA brutal hunter wolf still left. If yes, it really sucks to be a villager. We're going to need to see some heavy baddie-on-baddie action to conjure up a victory here. But the good thing is that no matter whom I vote, I'm likely voting a bad guy! I'm going to vote EURO: he seems like a good target to me, and there were some votes on him early on in the game. Euro's death would shed light on the reasoning behind those votes (and votes that were placed to save him).

Vote EUROO7

Edit: marty, you've got EURO twice in your votecount, once for enkhuush and once for reis91.
 
trespoe said:
Wrong. Torn did want a tie. He unvoted hdk post 1042, k-59 votes SLinky, syber immediately votes hdk again (post 1043) to make the tie. He was constantly shifting his vote around to accomodate others (split, euroo7) on that entire page (53). You make this comment :
post 1063. At that point it was tied 7-7. Euro switched and then your vote at the deadline (#1089) later sealed the deal on Slinky, and made sure a single vote would not make a tie. Someone still could have unvoted Slinky to hdk, but you left no time for anyone to do it. A perfect vote-snipe.

sorry, but that looks bad all around. A vote snipe? and after you claim to not coming back for the psuedo-JL. and now you pin it on Torn?

Torn loves ties. Look at his record this game. That boy is Lemeard's wet dream come true. Some factoids about his play style this game: Day 1 he made 9 votes out of 63 total for the day. He made 6 on day 2 out of 45 total votes. 1 out of every seven votes belong to him. He votes more than some players have commented.
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Had a post typed out, but it got eaten by Firefox. Anyway, short version, I did not votesnipe, slinky was already in the lead. The vote was placed around 1 min to the deadline to see if anyone took the bait. Hence, your reasoning falls. Try another day, perhaps?

and Reis is 90% chance a wolf as well, for reasons pointed out by Trespoe and countless others in the fifty-ish pages before this.
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Lazy.
 
unofficial vote count

reis - 3 - Euro, trespoe, AOK
Torn - 2 - enkhuush, Sedra
Sedra - 2 - Torn, Lurken
AOK - 2 - reis, marty
Euro - 1 - Jopi

not voted - 6 - johho, E_L, TNT, k-59, WD, SPLIT

@Jopi - are you sure? EURO looks like one of the worst lynches we can do, the only pack he can be in is the Dutch (which of course looks the strongest but still)
 
I'm not sure a tie is necessarily a bad thing today (if I'm right about the number of baddies)

vote Tornadoli
 
AOK. 11 said:
UNVOTE enkhuush
VOTE REIS

Lynch Reis.
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Care to give a little more reasoning then that? At this point in the game there is a lot of information in the thread, and you just say to lynch Reis? I expected far better of you AOK 11. Why not lynch you then?

Vote AOK 11 Until he at least gives a weak reason for his vote.
 
Votecount - 1 hour 56 minutes until deadline

Tornadoli v2.0 (3) - enkhuush, Sedracus v2.0, johho888
reis91 v2.0 (3) - EUROO7, trespoe, AOK.11
AOK.11 (3) - reis91 v2.0, marty99, Eternaly_Lost
Sedracus v2.0 (2) - Tornadoli v2.0, Lurken
EUROO7 - Jopi

Not Voted: Trinitrotoluen, k-59, White Daimon*, The_SPLIT​
 
Sorry was not being active, once again. Going to Vote Sedracus today to bring it up to a 4 way tie. I actually do not believe that this tie is beneficial, in my view the best road to take right now is to put two candidates up front. I am sure that some of the JL guys know each other and thus I would rather hope for them to influence the vote in the right direction.

I do not like were this is going thought…. Too many packs too little infomration
 
Eternaly_Lost said:
Care to give a little more reasoning then that? At this point in the game there is a lot of information in the thread, and you just say to lynch Reis? I expected far better of you AOK 11. Why not lynch you then?

Vote AOK 11 Until he at least gives a weak reason for his vote.
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He cannot. There is no case against me, really. He can cast aspersions over my skill, my integrity, my ethics, my past deeds, but he cannot build a strong case against me. Yes, I dare you, AOK.

Also, don't you find it wierd (to say the least) when both EURO and AOK are voting the same target?
 
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