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In a perfect world I'd agree with you but we've had games were the GM refused to follow his own rules and let zoombies live on to the endgame with only one or two votes for the whole game. How much fun is it to play against people like that?

It's not.
 
The GM should stick to the rules. If he said in the rules he'd autokill someone that failed to vote x number of times then he should do so if there is no sub available.



Not sure how many times EURO failed to vote but k-59 and Lord Strange should definitely have been autolynched by now.

Yes, you are right. Lord Strange did come back, but didn't bother with a placeholder vote at least, and then disappeared again.
If I recall, Kaetje said she was going to be busy, so I'll make an allowance.
EURO, well, he quit. Foolish of me to expect him to come back, I guess.
 
Wow - they were stupid to be out sitting under that tree during the thunderstorm.

At least two of them were bad!
 
Vote slinky

Placeholder vote. Do not mean this to have any impact.
 
Yes, you are right. Lord Strange did come back, but didn't bother with a placeholder vote at least, and then disappeared again.
If I recall, Kaetje said she was going to be busy, so I'll make an allowance.
EURO, well, he quit. Foolish of me to expect him to come back, I guess.

Kaetje was hunted, wasn't she? She says she thought she was dead ..


The baddies of this game are a joke. Except I am not laughing, as it is not funny.

Kill the rest and be done with this game.

Sadly, I have to agree. Euro and the_hdk have been suspects for half the game, Jackpot was almost a certain wolf days ago, LS is just too inactive in general, Sedracus and EL .. well.

Unvote Euroo7 the dead wolf
Vote the_hdk


I would like the last outed wolf dead. By the way.

Vote the_hdk
But that's just guesses, not solid info right?

uhm, he was one of the wolves I outed yesterday, Racz.
 
Vote the_hdk

The information we have about these outed wolves is great.

Gives us more time to find another wolf!
 
Lazy day

Vote the_hdk
 
I can sub if the GM thinks it is reasonable.
 
I wasn't talking about the outing, but about wolf setup ;) Surely nobody can know this for sure, unless that person is a baddie? Or am I missing something obvious?

True.
Mostly I have been assuming that the pack setup we had in the first PM round has stayed roughly the same. We have no real evidence against that. We've seen a GA wolf and a spy wolf. Presumably one of the remaining wolves is an ex-hunter wolf. (Probably ex, because I think the Lurken hunt was a wolf's handywork.)

On top of that there is the assumption that the 4 pack thing was utter and complete nonsense. If there really is a 4rd pack this game is still wide open - we have only seen baddies dead from 3 packs so far.

Anyway, Najs and LS were cultists (I didn't notice that at first), so drxav's post is incorrect.

Assuming 3 packs with 3 wolves and 1 cultist, this is what the probable setup looks like:

Infidels:
Wolf EURO
Wolf Johho
1 unknown wolf with a trait (probably the hunter)
Cultist Najs

Atheists:
Wolf Sedracus
Spy Wolf Jackpot
1 unknown wolf without a trait
Cultist Lord Strange

Schismatics:
Wolf Eternaly_lost
GA Wolf walrus
1 unknown traitless wolf
1 unknown cultist

Note the unknowns: 3 wolves, 1 cultist. Presumably if the_hdk dies one of the packs is wiped out.
Meaning that tonight we should have 2 wolves 1 cultist or (if we're lucky) 2 wolves left.

On the JL side we have a longish list of cleared or semi-cleared people right now. Meaning the actual suspect list is starting to be rather short. Nonetheless someone should do a bit of public analysis on the remaining living people. Preferably someone who actually has time for it right now. I am going to start on a thread reread soon but I suspect I won't have time to finish it today.

Also, I would like to ask any remaining villagers with traits to contact me ASAP with role and trait info so I can pass it on to the inner circle.
 
Day 1. This is focusing on the known baddies, so there's a lot of stuff I won't repeat.

Vote Boris ze Spider

Out of fear of the ice spiders of Russia.

Votecount : Day 1, 20+ hours to deadline

That ties Boris up nicely:

Adamus : J. Pass, Boris
Boris ze Spider : joeb, jackpot15

randakar : sedracus
rysz : jacob
walrus : lurken
kehaar : drxav
drxav : Orange Yoshi


I would like to hear more reasoning than because people think i am a wolf and that we fear ice spiders from Russia.
Maybe I do not wish to give up my reasons.
Maybe that is because you are a wolf. *nods*
and:
And the runner up, for "needlessly acts suspicious" goes to! :p

Unlikely atheist: Boris
And boy, Jackpot .. you already looked like a wolf with your very first vote. Well done. :p

A count.

magenta = no longer voting for this person

Boris ze Spider:3 (joebthegreat, Jackpot15, randakar)
Lurken: 3 (the_hdk, Eternaly_Lost, Jolt)
Adamus: 2 (J. Passepartout, jacob-Lundgren, Boris ze Spider)
Rysz: 1 (jacob-Lundgren)
randakar: 1 (Sedracus)
walrus: 1 (Lurken)
drxav: 1 (Orange Yoshi)
Orange Yoshi: 1 (walrus)
Sedracus: 1 (Ciryandor)
jonti-h: 1 (k-59)
the_hdk: 1 (drxav)
Kehaar: 0 (drxav)

Note how on day 1 the vote naturally drifts towards the goodies. That is no accident.

That unfortunately is a reference back to me... I guess.

Unvote Cardinal Ximenez
Vote the poor soul who is left no choice but to join


Let us give him Eternally_Lost errr I mean Eternal Rest

Here's Ciryandor, switching from Sedracus to EL.
If that vote stays there Ciryandor is an unlikely schismatic.

Vote EUROO7

because I got a headache and couldn't access the forums from work and I assume EUROO7 is the cause for both.

hmm. A throwaway?

Now, there is Boris up there: He is is still quite a new player, and I don't want him dead yet.
Lurken is just returned from a long break. He deserves to play just a bit longer than 1 day.

Vote walrus

To keep the other 2 alive.

This vote is significant since walrus is already in the danger zone before this vote, with lurken, me, and johho voting him.


I hunted AOK so I could claim I hunted AOK and none of you would believe me.

... unfortunately EURO, nobody believes a word you say, period. :p
In this case however that is not entirely true:

unvote the_hdk

vote euroo

Unlikely infidel: Drxav.

Well Brothers and Sisters... Jesus the singing machine and our guiding light loves you all.. *Father O'Shenannigan boomed out*
But of course our Lord has decided that one of us hasn't got around to pray much and that is...

VOTE EUROO7

May god be mercifull on your soul.

Is this what got Paendrag killed?



Adamus -4- J. Pass, Boris, Sedracus, Najs,
Euro -4- Slinky, Adamus, drxav, Paen,
Walrus -3- Lurken, Johho, Rysz,
Lurken -3- hdk, Losty, Jolt,
Boris -2- Joeb, Jackpot,
oy -2- Walrus, Ciryandor,
Rysz -1- Jacob,
drxav -1- Oy,
Jonti -1- k59,
Jolt -1- Jopi,


This count surprises me. Two wolves up there. Boris's vote looks suspect, considering that Euro (infidel) and walrus (schismatic) are both baddies.

So does this:
Vote Lurken :cool:

Fine.

Unvote walrus
Vote Adamus


For me, first day is not so much about who to lynch, but mostly about who I don't want to see dead in the beginning of the game too soon. As I said, Lurken coming back from a long retirement is one of those names. Since he was brought up to the tie, I break the tie.

This one drew my attention earlier.
(drat. Time's up. To be continued.)