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Pretty self explanitory, just got CK: Complete, and tooled around a bit as England but there was too much stuff, so I downgraded to Denmark and it was a bit more manageable, but would it be wiser to start as a different kingdom or even downgrade to a count/duke?
 
Pretty self explanitory, just got CK: Complete, and tooled around a bit as England but there was too much stuff, so I downgraded to Denmark and it was a bit more manageable, but would it be wiser to start as a different kingdom or even downgrade to a count/duke?

The Duchy of Apulia is good starting duchy, you are powerfull, you can easily become king (of Sicily) and there are relatively weak realms nearby.

As a kingdom, Poland is one of my favourites. You start with just a few vassals (4) and plenty of room for expansion in the Baltic. You also start the game with salic consanguinity, a young unmarried king (with good stats) and there is plenty of room to expand against the Baltic pagans or against the Turkish pagans on the steppes to the east.
 
I'm a little biased, but if you want to quickly get a feel for the entire scope of the game, you can go from count of Ulaid to Duke of Ulster to King of Ireland within a pretty short time. As count of Ulaid you only need to grab another province from another count in order to lay claim to the title of Duke, and then you can politik it out with your neighboring dukes and compete for vassals and eventually go to war in order to unite the kingdom.

I've done it a few times and it never fails to entertain. I like starting as a count and working my way up, and Ireland is one of the handful of places where you can do that without waiting forever.

There's also a duke in southwestern France who has a daughter you could marry a son off to(as a count in France) and secure inheritance for a son via marriage right off the start of the game, but you need to be willing to get your hands dirty and assassinate his two eldest sons. But if you do that, you can secure a big duchy and eventually break free from France, or maybe try to secure a claim on the throne for a son through marriage and then go to war.

Geez, making me want to play again!
 
Count of rostov (heir to principality of pereyaslavl) can be a fun game as well.

I wouldn't advise anything IN Russia for someone to 'cut their teeth' on. You're dealing with a spread out family that hates each other and next to strong Pagans. (Sounds just like the problems in Spain - LOL). And trying to get that Russian King Title would be very hard for a new player.
 
Personally I'd advice trying Sweden.
You've got easy crusading to the east (Finland and the Baltics), slightly weaker Norway to the west.

It has lots of room to grow, and few starting dangers.