Barbarossa Patch 1.11.5 - Checksum: 7e1e | LIVE | Patch Notes

[MatRopert]

Is it only the same fixes as in the beta? Or are there additional fixes to the 1.11.5 beta ?

It's very similar, although we had to remove the naval AI production change as it made historical games worse.
We also had to remove the frontline border fix as it had some unintended side effects.

 

[C0RAX]

Following the main patch notes here is a comprehensive and detailed set of changes made for tank balance as outlined in the change list above

Spoiler: Detailed Tank Balance changes for 1.11.5

Rocket launcher now forbids tank role

Moved tank_high_velocity_cannon_2 to antitank_4 tech from antitank_3

Turrets now determine which size of weapon is valid

Unit	hardness	breakthrough	mot equipment
Motorised	0.2>0.1	10>5
Motorised AT			35>36

Tech	Piecing	Chromium	Tungsten
AT 1	85>60	1
AT 2	100>90	1
AT 3		1
Mot rocket			2

Unit	SA	HA	Defence	Breakthrough	Chassis per Bn
Lt flame tanks	-0.75	-0.75	-0.75	-0.75
M flame tanks	-0.7	-0.7	-0.7	-0.7
Hvy flame tanks	-0.625	-0.625	-0.625	-0.625
Heavy armor				0.15
Light armor				0.15
Medium Armor				0.15
Modern				0.15
S Hvy Armor				0.15
Lt SPAA				-0.55	36
M SPAA				-0.53	36
Hvy SPAA				-0.35	36
SHvy SPAA				-0.35	36
Modern SPAA				-0.53	36
Lt SPG				-0.42	50
M SPG				-0.25	50
Hvy SPG				-0.25	40
SHvy SPG				-0.25	40
Modern SPG				-0.25	50
Lt TD				-0.42	50
M TD				-0.25	50
Hvy TD				-0.25	40
SHvy TD				-0.25	40
Modern TD				-0.25	50

module	IC cost	additive speed
armor upgrade	0.25>0.2
gasoline engine	3>1	1>0.5
diesel engine	3>1
petrol electric	4>2
gas turbine	4>3	2>0.5
		armour value
Rivetted armor	*0>*-0,2	-0,2>0
torsion bar	3>1
Christie	3>1
bogie	2>0
interleaved	3>1
wheel	1>0 , *0>*-0.1
half track	1.5>0.5, *0>*-0.05

Module	IC Cost	SA	HA	Breakthrough	Resource	XP
auto cannon	2.5>1.5
auto cannon 2	3>2
AA cannon	3>2
AA cannons 2	4>3				T1:S2
AA cannon 3	5>4				T1:S3
small cannon	3>1.5
small cannon 2	4>3
close support gun	5>4				S1
medium cannon	4>3				T1:S1
medium cannon 2	5>4				T1:C1:S2
medium howitzer	6>4	28>35		-2	T1:S2
medium howitzer 2	7.5>5.5	35>45		-2	T1:C1:S3
Rocket launcher	3>4			-4	T2:S1
Rocket launcher 2	4>5			-4	T2:S1
High velocity	4>3		25>26		T2:S2
High velocity 2	6>5				T2:C1:S2
high velocity 3	8>7				T2:C1:S3
heavy cannon	7>6				T1:C1:S2
heavy cannon 2	8>7				T2:C1:S2
heavy cannon 3	11>8				T3:C1:S3
heavy howitzer	8>7	50>55		-4	T1:C1:S3
Radio 1	1>0.5			*0.25>*0.15
Radio 2	2>1.5			*0.45>*0.30
Radio 3	3>2.5			*0.65>*0.45
armor skirts	1.5>0.5
sloped armor	*0.1>*0.01					1>10
2nd turret cannon	5.5>2
2nd turret HMG	2.5>1

Asterisk define multiplicative values when the rest of a column is additive

 

[C0RAX]

Much obliged! I'm a little confused by the wheeled and half track suspension though - there now seems to be no reason to use them, as bogies are now as cheap if not cheaper, and don't have the reliability or hardness penalty. Is this intentional?

wheeled and half track have -10% and -5% IC modifiers respectably

 

[Arheo]

Thanks for the reply. Any chance you could go into more details on why it made it worse? And what unintended side effects happened?

Turns out the AI didn't like building those ships because they are bad. Forcing them to do so left them with a suboptimal navy, and the balance is thrown off for the rest of the game. To pre-empt the inevitable calls that 'the simulation should echo history' - that may be, however, rebalancing the entire naval module is not within the realms of a bugfix, though is something we have our eyes on for the undisclosed future.

The frontline issue is a little more difficult to explain.

 

[MatRopert]

Thanks for the reply. Any chance you could go into more details on why it made it worse? And what unintended side effects happened?

For the first one, forcing the AI keep naval production lines it didn't want made some countries AIs weaker in naval plays (Japan most notably).
For the second one, a few edge cases would delete front lines on dangerous fronts.

 

[Arheo]

Hi! I have a quick question. I am currently playing Germany and saved my game. Have changes of the new patch applied to this game. Or do I need to start a new game?

The not-very-useful answer is 'it depends'. Most if not all changes will have been applied to your game from the previous version when you load it.

will there but further balancing modules in the tank designer or is this a done deal with the numbers for now? as far as cost goes?

There are no further plans to make significant changes to tank designer balance.

 

[C0RAX]

Production cost increase should be 10%, not 1%. It is a typo in the code.

no it's not, as per my change list.

 

[CraniumMuppet]

I just had a second update, did something else change, or was it just my steam freaking out?

Steam. Could be mods validation

 

[Arheo]

How to remove the flickering label on the right SLOW INTERFACE in debug-mode?

Turn off debug mode.

 

[Arheo]

This post is also basically the admission that not only an unfinished, only half working product has been published and sold but also that the fix of said module has not ETA and is not even planned yet (hence undisclosed future... which is business lingo for "Don't know when, if ever".

Do not put words in my mouth.