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Snow Crystal

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Welcome to another Dev Diary about The Iron Century. Today we are going to talk a bit about some of the Christian rulers you can find in the new bookmark. Note, most of the rulers shown here will have randomized traits.

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Here for a glimpse of what Christian Europe look like in 936.

King Louis IV of West Francia: Louis is among the last kings of the Karling dynasty. He was followed by Lothair, his eldest son, and later his grandson Louis V, which ended up as the final monarch of the dynasty. In our bookmark, King Louis is 15 years old and has recently returned from England to rule his homeland. Under his rule is the strongman Hugues the Great of the Capet dynasty, as well as unruly Occitans in the south and the newly settled Normans to the north. If he can only quell his vassals and their bids for power, West Francia is a strong base for the future of the dynasty.

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King Rudolf of Arles: Originally the king of Upper-Burgundy, he collected the two halves of Burgundy to form the new Kingdom of Arles. The Italians to the east, led by the industrious Hugues of the Bosonid dynasty, form a threat to the capital of Arles as well as the area around Provence. Besides that, Rudolf is in a good position to ally with most of the rulers around him, though his Kingdom is small enough to be tossed aside by the larger powers at play.

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Duke Boleslav (the Cruel) of Bohemia: The Bohemian rose to the title of Duke through the fratricide of his brother (Good King) Wenceslaus. Though his rise to power was bloody, Boleslav ruled well and was known as an efficient administrator. Early in his rule he ended the tribute to the German king Otto, and ended up in conflict with the Germans for the next 15-20 years. Boleslav is a tough start, as he is surrounded by pagans in every direction, be it with the Polish rulers to the north, Hungary to the south or Kievan Rus to the far east.

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Tsar Peter of the Bulgarian Empire: Son of the first Emperor of Bulgaria, he is the heir to a strong legacy. To the south and east is the Byzantine Empire, the Bulgarians have a long history fraught with conflicts and interactions with them. To the north the Hungarians have pushed into the Carpathian Basin, and taken huge chunks of land that used to be under Bulgarian rule. As an extra note here, the Bulgarian Empire is actually a DeJure Empire in the 936 start, spanning the Kingdoms of Bulgaria and Wallachia.

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Basileus Romanos of the Byzantine Empire: We could not have a list of Christian rulers without the Byzantines, could we? Romanos of the Lekapenos dynasty is the co-emperor of the Byzantine Empire, together with Konstantinos of the Makedon dynasty (he holds Nikomedeia and Herakleia), but he is the elder of the two and functionally the one calling the shots. Though the Byzantine Empire has been through a rough ride lately, they have recently come to a peace agreement with their northern neighbors in Bulgaria, and the muslims are shattering at their southern and eastern fronts. With the rise of the many Shia and Sunni rulers (the Fatimids, the Buyids, the Sallarids, the Jannabids, the Hamdanids, the Ikhshidids, the Al-Thamalis etc) in the vacuum left by the weakened Abbasid Caliphate, the Byzantine Empire are posed to take back some of their ancient lands as their enemies are busy fighting one another.

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Hopefully you have found this little look into the some of the different Christian rulers (and of course, there are plenty more for you to find when you get access to The Iron Century yourself). We look forward to see you again tomorrow when we’ll take a look at the Muslim rulers who populate the map in the year 936!

PS, for those who enjoyed the first chapter of Thankmar's Rebellion, here's the second chapter! https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-iron-century-mini-aar.1179523/#post-25478718
 
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Given that the rulers of Arles, Bohemia and Bulgaria all have bloodlines, how many new historical bloodlines do you estimate you’ve added in this patch?
 
@Snow Crystal An off-topic question here, but with the new update will you add an event that simulates the fall of the Knights Templar involving the King of France & the rest of Europe? As currently if you play in a late enough bookmark the Holy Order is gone but if you play in an earlier one they're there & won't disappear ever.

No plans to add the fall of the Knights Templar at the moment. It came up as a discussion throughout Holy Fury, but we ended up not doing anything with it.
 
I don´t quite understand the reasoning behind this. It drastically reduces the potential for conflicts between BYZ and BUL, only a few counties in the southwest and a county in Thrace are disputed then. How does it make the iron century more "realistic" when Bulgarians and Byzantines are, more or less, just "friendly neighbours"?

They very literally were "friendly neighbours" for the next 30 years or so, after our start date. Bulgaria has a whole lot of barony holdings in Thracian lands though, so I am sure they'll find reasons to start wars with one another.
 
While having the brown tribal banners in earlier teases, Zoltán is now feudal. Is this final? Also will Carpathia have additional formation requirements? And is Kingdom of Magyar still around as a separate title from Hungary (Zoltán has a strong claim on a kingdom that is likely Magyar)?

Has Kingdom of Lotharingia been deactivated in this start date? Otherwise, what's stopping Giselbert to simply for the Kingdom as he controls all the necessary territory? If it's been deactivate, how are the duchies distributed between France and Germany? And finally, is there a decision to form the Grand Duchy of Lotharingia (similar to Saxony, Swabia & Franconia)?

He is meant to be tribal, not feudal. After a merge, he had accidentally gotten access to a Castle (the bastard). I made sure last night that he lost access to all Castles, and he has returned to his huts.

The Kingdom of Lotharingia has not been deactivated. Nothing stops Giselbert besides gold, I guess?
 
What will be the point of next DD? Pagan rulers?

And also what about Spain and Navarra? I'm struggling to continue Requoncista in the first and the second start dates and don't want to it with divided kingdoms in 1066.

Honestly, what is really the point of anything? Why are we doing this? Is everything just a digital simulation?!

(Jokes aside, next DD will be about Muslims. And I didn't want the DD to be too long, so there are a lot of rulers that I missed out on, that you guys will have to find and explore for yourselves.)
 
Meaning just for this DD, to be given real traits by release, or is this permanent? If the latter, why exactly? None of these people are unknowns, historically speaking; we know what they would go on to do, or have already done by this point. Surely it's not impossible to derive at least basic personalities for at least the majority of these.

Well, 99.99% of the characters that exists in CK2 have randomized traits. I could've sat down and made traits for every character that I thought was cool, sure, but it is time consuming to add something that is already uncommon in the game. Besides Charlemagne, easter egg characters, some special Han characters and the new characters used for the Feature Ruler, I am not sure if there is any characters who have completely set traits.

The randomized traits can be moddable at start of the game if we want specific traits for each character at start of the game or they are simply hardcoded?Thanks for any reply about this.

They are moddable, if you want to start tweaking around in the game files.
 
Just to be sure you didn't want it to be to long for time on your side being busy and all? If your cutting the length out of fear of losing our attention then I'm genuinely scared paradox is losing touch with its fans :p

Yes, because it takes time writing these things, and I am writing 5 of them this week.
 
Oh, and they will be angry that their proposal was heard, as opposed to not being heard? I'm not convinced.

In any event, people unhappy about XYZ is nothing new. I'm sure the developers will somehow find the resolve to push on.

We are not going to start putting in traits for everyone and their mother. If people feel strongly that a character need a specific set of stats or traits, they are free to mod it in themselves.
 
Thanks for your efforts, Snow Crystal. Iron Century looks really impressive and it's strange to think this is largely just one dev's work! Not sure if it's planned for a dev diary or not, but I'd love to know more about how you got the ball rolling on Iron Century and how you got PDX behind you to get this done. I'm sure all the devs have little side projects here and there but not every day they make their way into the main game like this! Paradox sounds like a great place to work!

It's not really planned, but I can probably talk a little bit about it. Just before Christmas (I think it was the 22nd) I had been working a lot on Imperator and took a break from making some events on it to clear up some bugs from HF that I had accidentally made.

Randomly for fun while waiting for stuff to load I was reading about Otto I, and thought "What do the world even look like if I just slap in the random dare for fun?". After reading a bit more up on it, I thought 936 was a cool year that happened around a lot of other interesting stuff.

So I open the game in 936 at Otto's Coronation date (yeah, this really never changed), and just started checking stuff out. At first it was about 2000 errors across the world.

So I test it out a little bit and try fixing the history and clearing out the errors just in Norway and Iceland, and I manage to power through it pretty quickly. So after genuinely wondering how hard it'd be to actually make a bookmark, I clear up all my Imperator tasks in a couple of days over Christmas.

With the rest of my Christmas holidays free, I start doing a whole bunch of reading up on the 10th century and start putting together history and fill in things wherever I can. Originally I just planned to make a mod out of it.

After randomly talking to Tuscany (Dan) after we got back to work, we started talking about the bookmark. He suggested making it official, and the ball started rolling.

So I've poured several hundreds of hours of my spare time into it, and received a lot of help from friends and betas, both making parts of the history and testing it out. 5-6 months later and here we are.
 
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