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So, no Communist path right. Why?
The simple answer is: Time. I actually did have a small communist path at some point but then I realized I wasn't gonna have time to do anything meaningful there so we cut it. Also, it felt harder to justify historically. If I have time at the end I might add something small but likely not.
 
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It's not that I don't like Switzerland (I do!) or that I wouldn't like to play as Switzerland (I would!), but I think it would be great if there was a path in the focus tree that leads to the dissolution of Switzerland and a partition between Germany, Italy and France. Well and of course you'd have to be able to tell the AI before the start of the game to go down that route.
I think I mentioned bits of this on the responses to the previous DD, but basically, we did consider this at the start, but ended opting for states that do not match language lines (except for Ticino), since we consider Switzerland as a united country separate from those three nations a more interesting scenario.
 
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Alright, but will we atleast still have access to the Communist revolutionary? It'd be a shame if we had another Democratic Russia situation where you have to do a lot of nonsense just to even flip Democratic. Since Kerensky is locked for no reason.
There's still some communists in there don't worry! :D
 
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Just for curiosity: What happens for users w/o LaR?
Some main things will be kinda replicated, but there's a chance some focuses (Specifically the Secret Ally Branch) will not show up if you don't have La Resistance. That branch hinges too much on espionage to be interesting without LaR
Surely if Switzerland went fascist, Germany would just annex it? Like it did with Austria which also had a fascist Government or the Germans in the Sudetenland. Will there atleast be an option for Germany to annex all of Switzerland if Switzerland does go fascist? (using the German population as an excuse). And Will there be a decision to partition Switzerland along language lines?

Also when will there be a Communist focus tree for Germany? Since someone brought up the lack of a Communist focus tree for Switzerland.

And any chance of you guys adding more Reichskommissariats for Germany?

Thanks for the great work!
Maybe, for now it's represented as Switzerland being puppeted, which is close enough I think, since I believe the Swiss population would be more resistant to a foreign government directly controlling them, so a continuation of the previous government would be required.
 
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Can we see any general/leader portrait, or those aren't ready yet?
Some are, they were done after I wrote the Dev Diary! see if how many you can recognize. There's loads more coming later.
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When you complete the focuses "Guiasan's coup" or "President for life" does Switzerland stay democratic or does it become non-aligned? The diary doesn't make very clear.
Sorry about that! It goes Non-Aligned in the Preempt Anschluss part, and stays democratic in the Eidgenossenschaft branch.
 
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Just to be sure : the first path (through Gothardbund and demand Vorarlberg) is an agressive democratic one ? Or is it more a non-aligned one ?
It becomes Non-Aligned in the Alpine Empire Branch but they will still use the veneer of democracy to justify it. The Edgenossenschaft branch will continue being democratic
 
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Will there be interaction between a napoleonic France and switzerland?`Because if I remeber rigth Napoleon lived there and even if not it would be interesting to still have the second hellvetic republic as an option if Frances goes Napoleon (maybe with a name chnage ofr the focus tree, like "submit to Napoleon" if they go down that route)
There's no specific interactions, just joining France
 
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Will you be blocked from taking the historical focii in the centre (Ban fascist parties, Armed neutraly) if you go to Gothardbund on the tree's left, or the tree's right side through the Fortify french frontier sub tree ?
For now, you need to centralize to go to the sides, so you'll be locked out of the center branch if you have the amount of centralization you need to go left of right. take
 
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I recognised a few :
A1 : Ernst Nobs ?
A2 : ?
A3 : Roger Bonvin ?
A4 : ?
B1 : ?
B2 : Philip Etter (federal councilior from 1934 to 1959, he was in power for so long that people started nicknaming him “the Etter-nal”)
B3 : ?
B4 : ?
C1 : Marcel Pilet-Golaz (quite a controversial councilior since he was seen as (at best) passive or (at worst) sympathetic towards the fascists)
C2 : ?
C3 : ?
C4 : ?
D1 : Nelio Celio
D2 : Giuseppe Motta (also was in power for a long time - from 1912 to 1940)
D3 : ?
D4 : Max Petitpierre
E1 : Robert Tobler ?
E2 : ?
E3 : Max Weber ?
E4 : ?
F1 : ?
Nice one! The only 2 wrong ones are A3 and E3
 
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All of these paths seem historically plausible, except for the Alpine Empire path. What is the historical context for it?
There's really not a lot of proper Historical Context for it, just mostly extrapolation and taking the militarization and defense of Switzerland to the extreme, which I don't think it's exclusive to Switzerland but rather something that most governments could devolve into. Lots of empires and aggressions have started in the name of defense. It is a very extreme and unlikely path, but wanted to have a way for the people to just fight it out if they want to.
 
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How does that whole "Offer protection to Austria" annexion thing tie in with things like Hungary's non-aligned acquisition of it or France's Stressa Front ? If Hungary gets to annex Austria first, does the focus simply get bypassed ? On the other hand, of Switzeland annexes Austria first, is a Habsburg Hungary forever locked out of its political tree ? And if Austria and Hungary (or Germany) are at war, does annexing it as Switzerland pull you in the war, or do you just yoink it under their nose ? If Austria is guaranteed by France and Italy, will they always refuse swiss annexion - and, if they accept, does that make the entire Stressa Front branch of France useless, or will the guarantee be transferred to Switzerland ?

The thing is, there's now a high (and growing) number of political branches centered around a "Austria is MY plaything" concept ; I'm kinda worried the one who has the fastest tree would be able to seize it first and lock others out of their choosen path, since you can't switch political path once comitted.

THanks in advance for the clarification, and other than these reserves, I must admit I am quite eager to get my hands on Switzerland and try a playthrough for myself~
Yeah those are things we have to tune and playtest to get them right, and we'll do our best there! I understand those worries though :D
 
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To be perfectly honest, a communist path seems to be most likely quite close to the historical path, not the "traditional" aggressive-alt -history one
On one side, communism in swissbois is quite close to impossible to appear: mostly rural country, with hard terrain, no large cities with large impoverished working class, etc. Has really no way to start a revolution or even have revolutionary mass-movements to gain momentum.
On the other hand...
The historical swissboi path with the extreme local autonomy, hardcore self-defence and local democracy are about as close to the anarchist ideas of the "red group" as you can be within the "blue group". To radicalize from there towards anarchism seems to be the most likely communist path, and also one possible quite short:
By joining the global anarchist movement, you would try to support similar stuff as the og anarchist spain, without particular focus on countries: focus for decisions to try to create anarchist uprisings, etc. Keeping the militia army would be also 10/10 authentic too. You could even have the tree appear as the result of the anarchist rising in spain. But keeping in faith with the self-defence rhetoric, no wargoals on other countries, just purely the easy ability to aid or even ally with civil war-anarchists.
So, cantonize the world, anyone?
So it's not only about plausibility, it's more like plausibility vs how interesting I think I can make it within the time we have and compared to the other branches. Yes, the Alpine Empire stuff is not as plausible as a communist path, but it was easier to branch from another section, as an extreme of it, so it's not that much work; it fills a gap in the content, jumping into militarism relatively quickly; and it's a fun part of a larger narrative of what we're willing to do for defense. Unfortunately, other than using Rote Drei and the Lucy Spy ring to become communist, I didn't see any way of making it interesting without sacrificing other things. I did incorporate some of it into the Secret Path section, and that made more sense with the theme of Switzerland using its geographical location and neutrality to help the allies, which is something that is actually pretty historical, Switzerland did shoot down a lot of allied planes, and they never supported them openly, but they also covertly helped them whenever it was possible, because they knew Nazi Germany was bad news for them.

I feel quite bad that Switzerland had no communist route, but by the other hand, i'm glad, because of one thing: It's current commie flag, it represents anything but Switzerland (a red flag with a huge white star? Come on! I know there is anything better than that).

Anyway, i'm looking forward to lay my hands of Switzerland and leave neutrality!

I wonder what will be for Ethiopia and what routes there will be.

I hope in the next-next-next DLC, Austria gets it's national focus (I said next-next-next DLC, because i have a feeling that the one following Blood Alone will have a focus in Scandinavian countries).
I wasn't there when it was chosen, but I can see the logic behind the original Swiss Communist flag. If regular Switzerland is a minimal flag with just a white cross, it's natural to assume a communist Switzerland would be a red field with a white star. I'm actually pretty disappointed myself because I really liked the flags for it. They will still be in the game though, if someone wants to use it or cheat their way to communism.
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Would it be possible to add more focuses under join the axis for the fascist branch? It seems kind of strange that the fascist subbranch just ends after joining the axis.
Well it doesn't have to end there, you can do the military branch after for example, but I see your point. The idea is that if you want to join Germany quickly it'll cost your independence, but joining the axis as a partner will take more effort, so it's the reward.
Love the Talking Heads tributes, lol.

I might actually try Swiss World Conquest.
Finally someone with good taste in music! :p
Is the "in most cases the leader of the biggest democratic faction" simply a reference to the Allies usually being the biggest democratic faction and the UK usually being the leader of it? I was holding out hope for a moment that it might be more flexible and finally allow for the Central European Alliance to potentially get some recognition outside the German tree (considering the Central Powers have gotten it more than once...).
Similar to the way it looks for a fascist neighbor, it looks for the closest most appropriate Democratic faction leader. It checks if the UK is a democratic faction leader first, and then goes France and so on.
Not really related to Switzerland, but with the addition of impassable terrain in the Alps, why don't you guys consider adding more of these throughout the map? There are plenty of mountains, deserts and rainforests that could have this trait without actually limiting player choices.
The reason we added this was because we were looking at the area and it made sense with the Swiss content. If that happens again in the countries we work on next, we'll also revisit those areas.
 
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Don't worry about a Communist path for Switzerland. It doesn't have the economy or the resources to be one in the middle of four hysterical anti-communists. At best, it's an alternative to armed neutrality, with full power to cantons (direct democracy flavour), where you just play the Espionage game, organize refugees into partisans, sabotage industry, organize strikes, and just wait until the Axis comes for you, because it will.
This is actually pretty similar to what I wanted to do originally, but ended up making it the Secret Ally branch
 
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This is entirely understandable and thank you for your response. I just feel that the placement of the joining the axis focus is kind of awkward as the branch just ends there. I find myself interested in what happened after you join the axis as the swiss as an equal partner. So if its not too much trouble could you add a few more focuses after the join the axis focus? Of course if you can't do it because of time constraints or some other reason that's perfectly understandable too! Have a good day! :)
Yeah it's a totally reasonable thing, but as always depends on time and all that. Have a good day too!
 
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I am very interested in the Focus which changes your Militia to Regular Infantry divisions from a modding perspective.

Does that mean we can change templates of units via effect now? :O
Yup! It's pretty handy.
I've got a question: will Austria-Hungary need Vorarlberg to form if they've surrendered it to Switzerland?
Yes, since it's a core of Austria
 
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Good Day!Please tell me, will Switzerland have its own unit models? This is a weird question and I know you work hard, I appreciate it, but it's super important to me.
Hey! Yeah they're working on those models right now. There's a winter and a normal version. Militias and mountaineers slightly different too!
 
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I cant believe the devs made such fantasy history big big big Focus Trees to just forget about introducing even just one Communist alt branch among the 4 monarchist and fifty nuance of Fascism branch.

I mean, come on.
Is there absolutely no art direction, no planning anymore for HoI content ?

It feels like the alt history fantasy Focus Tree direction has gone so far it is now on auto parody mode.

You are entitled to an opinion - but hyperbole will get you nowhere. If you have constructive feedback, that will be listened to, but please try to express it in a manner even remotely approaching polite.
 
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