Tinto Flavour #13 - 11th of April 2025 - Saxony

[Pavía]

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Fridays in which we take a look at the flavourish content of the super-secret Project Caesar!

This Wednesday, we had a Tinto Talks related to the HRE, so it may be fitting to take a look today at another German country with unique flavour content: Saxony! Let’s start without further ado:

The County of Meissen, a possession of the powerful von Wettin dynasty, had its origins as an eastern march of the Holy Roman Empire in the lands of the Sorbs and other Slavic people that were rapidly Germanized. The land, densely forested in its origins, has proved to be really fertile, and the mild climate, especially near the Elbe river, has allowed the Saxons living there to develop a Wine culture.

The Ore Mountains, separating the country from the Bohemian Crown, are rich in minerals, especially Silver that fuels the economy of the County. However, its apparent richness is a double-edged sword, as the country is seen with greedy eyes by its neighbors, and they might try to conquer it. Despite the potential threats, Meissen thrives as a significant territory in Upper Saxony.

Over time, the von Wettin rule has further expanded Meissen’s influence and fortified it against external pressures. With its fertile lands, rich resources, and strategic location, it stands as a prominent entity in the Empire, attracting admiration and envy from its neighbors.

The County of Meissen is the one we recommend to get all the Saxony-related content, since it was the polity that ended up unifying the region of Upper Saxony:

As usual, take any UI, 2D and 3D art as WIP.​

Here are the lands of Meissen, and its neighboring country, Landsberg:

Meissen starts with a semi-unique Government Reform that only a few countries in the HRE have:

And a couple of Estate Privileges for countries of German culture:

And a unique policy is available to German countries, as well:

And a very important work of art:

And here some of the unique advances available for Meissen/Saxony, for different ages:

Let’s now take a look at some of the events available to Meissen.

Early on, this event will pop up:

Which will lead to this result:

This event may also pop up:

The second option is an alt-historical interesting one:

We also have some late-game events, which are very fitting for a Saxony playthrough:

Or:

Last, but not least, there's the possibility of unifying the Saxonian region into a proper tag:

… And much more, but that’s all for today! Next week will be another intense week, since on Monday we will be taking a look at the Tinto Maps Feedback review of Western Africa; on Wednesday the Tinto Talks will be devoted to the Catholic religion and the Catholic Church IO; and on Thursday there will be new Tinto Flavour, about the Papal States (since next Friday it might be a somewhat important date for Christians, and a bank holiday in Spain). Cheers!

 

[Pavía]

Again.

Again.

 

[Pintu]

Fake Saxony, not the original one

As a Saxonian, I reject this notion entirely!

 

[Pavía]

Will Magdeburg rights be available to the non-German cultures in central and eastern Europe that used Magdeburg town charters and rights?

Yes. To be precise, it requires having the capital in Germany or the Baltic, or being a member of the HRE.

 

[Pavía]

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Is this a new interface?!

There have been some recent changes, yes.

 

[Pavía]

What does it mean here about "It is NOT the Age of..." ?

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Since we change some of the Societal Values to later ages, in the case of being at the Age of Reformation or later, the country will get a modifier to move towards Free Trade; it's a reported bug that we'll fix.

 

[Pavía]

So forming Saxony is just waiting for the Landsberg countess (rather her husband) to sell their lands to us? Or do we need to acquire more territory for that? Also, do we need to change the prince-elector status to something else to be able to form Saxony or do we need to get the prince-elector status to be able to form Saxony? The tooltip is a bit confusing.

Sidenote, but I think we're seeing the first female character in the game and she's so pretty yay.

After annexing Landsberg, getting the status of Elector, which in 1337 is held by another Saxony, Saxe-Wittenberg:

For other countries: You need to be of Saxon culture, be an Elector, and have a certain percentage (25% now) in the Lower Saxony and Upper Saxony areas.

 

[Pavía]

Could It be possible for Meissen to be called a margraviate rather than a county? It could even by tied to its unique goverment reform.

Yes, we want this to be the case.

 

[Pavía]

Does that include Flanders ?

Since, in the tooltip it says "originally drafted using Flemish law"

Yes.

 

[Pavía]

If I play as Landsberg can I say no to the purchase?

Yes.

 

[Pavía]

How can you get the electorate?

You have to convince the Emperor to give you the Electorship. It's easier if one the electorates disappears, of course, but you can also wait/vote for the Electorships to be expanded.

 

[Pavía]

Is there a Landgrave gov reform too?

Yes!

 

[Pavía]

I think the electorate change you are referring happened historically with the 1547 Capitulation of Wittenberg. Is that electoral change modeled somehow?

Also, the Saxon adquisition of Lusatia may deserved an event, I hope.

There are events about the sale of Lusatia, yes.