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OrangeYoshi said:
Why bother with recruitment if you're just going to shove them out the door as soon as they get here?
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Orange, if I think someone is a good suspect I will lynch them. You do not give anyone a pass for reasons outside the game. Whether they are family or whether you like them or whether they are new. Not lynching newbies just because they are new is not how Werewolf is played. If he is going to quit simply because he got lynched once then he is not going to stick around anyway.

People get lynched. Its how the game works. If I think someone a good suspect, I will string them up. Get over it, or stop it by joining a game instead of complaining.
 
Do not fear, I will still be playing WW, i am sad that this one ended so quickly, but i will be back.
 
OFFICIAL JL ANNOUNCEMENT:

TRESPOE IS A WOLF

VOTE TRESPOE

I repeat, trespoe is a scanned wolf and must be lynched.

I am sorry I could not wait for another round of voting and do it at the deadline. I have some real life family stuff and work to attend to right now and I might not be back until very near the deadline. Given this particular deadline and the problems it causes for some preventing them from being active at that time, I am going to have to move now.

And wolves, go ahead and kill me if you want. I am not the Seer you are looking for.
 
Adamus said:
I literally just had to save myself and getting me back on par with boris was the best way to my survival. I dont like TIEs this early on but i had no choice, lucky randakar switched as we would of had three dead villagers on our hands. Make of me what you will but surly for the time being i am safe to say i have been run up. Now lets look to the future - top suspects:

Dirkje - Has been active, but in the process made very aggresive votes towards now known villagers and been activly pursuing tie's since day one, a risky stratagy for a wolf but not one i would put pastt a relative newcomer who may not know the tell tale signs.

Hipp0 - first game, not one we can analysis for previous behaviour but has certainly been voting suspiciously with last minute votes switches, in truth this can be put down to over enthusiasm.

And as always

The quietens - Trespoe, Rysz, Jonti there maybe villagers in there for sure bit ill put money on at least one of them being a wolf. A sneaky silent wolf.
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drxav said:
You make a good case to yourself, but let's analyse votes!

Dirkje: aggressive votes towards known villagers? He voted Boris on turn 1, and you on vote 2. That's ONE known villager. He tried to snipe Reis91 to a 4 vs 5 vote at the last minute. As far as we know Reis91 isn't a clear villager either, and 4 vs 5 isn't a tie.

He tied you today after you tied Randy and Reis91. And pursuing a tie on day one would've been voting Reis91 (3 vs 5) rather than Boris.

He's been active but his vote "pattern" isn't that obvious.

Hipp0, well, that last move towards a 3 way tie indeed is suspicious to me. Perhaps he was expecting a devastating vote switch that would've killed 3 villagers. In that hypothesis: Adamus Boris and Reis91 are villagers. Who could still vote snipe at that point (and sometimes did): me, Enkuush, and randakar (that did snipe). Dirjke sniped from Adamus to Reis91, had he been in that conspiracy he wouldn't have changed his vote. I was there at deadline and did not snipe. That leaves Enkuush, who didn't have electricity at the time thus couldn't vote.

Let's assume Enkuush and Hipp0 are wolves. Hipp0 switches from Randy to Reis. That makes a 4-4-3 count. Enkuush comes in at the last minute and votes Reis. We got ourselves 3 dead bodies and we're out of pancakes. It's a risky strategy but that'd put them way ahead in the odd counts. 3 dead villagers minus the hunted one, that's 4 in one night. It drops the odds to 8 vs 4. Quite a dangerous situation there.

I think we got ourselves a decent suspect. I'll save my vote switch for tomorrow.

Edit: Forgot about K-59.

*Goes back to his data base.*
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oohhhhh!!

Shiny analysis!

everything shiny, here. drxav actually has some interesting points concerning hipp0. The bigger question becomes what was going on there the last hour and what role does hipp0 play in it.

I need some wine. Is there any wine, here? (whose house are we playing, at, anyway?) Oh, forget it. I forgot we were in the Netherlands. Kriek, please. and yes, I know it probably comes from next door.
 
AOK. 11 said:
OFFICIAL JL ANNOUNCEMENT:

TRESPOE IS A WOLF

VOTE TRESPOE

I repeat, trespoe is a scanned wolf and must be lynched.

I am sorry I could not wait for another round of voting and do it at the deadline. I have some real life family stuff and work to attend to right now and I might not be back until very near the deadline. Given this particular deadline and the problems it causes for some preventing them from being active at that time, I am going to have to move now.

And wolves, go ahead and kill me if you want. I am not the Seer you are looking for.
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uhh... wrong. You realize a fake announcement is very bad, don't you. I am not a wolf, just a villager.

Vote AOK

for a false JL announcement,

And I want the players to think about this.... have I ever fought a JL outing.... or participated in a "fake outing"? The answer to this is a NO.
 
drxav said:
You make a good case to yourself, but let's analyse votes!

Dirkje: aggressive votes towards known villagers? He voted Boris on turn 1, and you on vote 2. That's ONE known villager. He tried to snipe Reis91 to a 4 vs 5 vote at the last minute. As far as we know Reis91 isn't a clear villager either, and 4 vs 5 isn't a tie.

He tied you today after you tied Randy and Reis91. And pursuing a tie on day one would've been voting Reis91 (3 vs 5) rather than Boris.

He's been active but his vote "pattern" isn't that obvious.

Hipp0, well, that last move towards a 3 way tie indeed is suspicious to me. Perhaps he was expecting a devastating vote switch that would've killed 3 villagers. In that hypothesis: Adamus Boris and Reis91 are villagers. Who could still vote snipe at that point (and sometimes did): me, Enkuush, and randakar (that did snipe). Dirjke sniped from Adamus to Reis91, had he been in that conspiracy he wouldn't have changed his vote. I was there at deadline and did not snipe. That leaves Enkuush, who didn't have electricity at the time thus couldn't vote.

Let's assume Enkuush and Hipp0 are wolves. Hipp0 switches from Randy to Reis. That makes a 4-4-3 count. Enkuush comes in at the last minute and votes Reis. We got ourselves 3 dead bodies and we're out of pancakes. It's a risky strategy but that'd put them way ahead in the odd counts. 3 dead villagers minus the hunted one, that's 4 in one night. It drops the odds to 8 vs 4. Quite a dangerous situation there.

I think we got ourselves a decent suspect. I'll save my vote switch for tomorrow.

Edit: Forgot about K-59.

*Goes back to his data base.*
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How reliable is this hereabove IF you are a wolf???
 
trespoe said:
uhh...

And I want the players to think about this.... have I ever fought a JL outing.... or participated in a "fake outing"? The answer to this is a NO.
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I don't know,
It's my first WW_game online.

I'm learning everytime.
how can I send a personal massage to somebody?
 
drxav said:
Knowing a bit about EUROO I suppose lynching him early is considered a good option by the villagers.
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Sure sure, yeah.
 
Alright. Time for me to step in.
First of all, let me publicly respond to this PM of yours:

AOK. 11 said:
Randy, we have a problem

A "seer" has contacted me and told me that I was scanned clean and that trepoe is a scanned wolf.

I find him to be credible. Is he your guy? Did the claimed "Seer" on your end scan tres last night? If not, then someone is obviously lying. I have to do the outing now as I may not be back later, and he wanted me to do it immediately, so I will follow his wishes. I think you are probably innocent. I doubt a wolf would claim to be scanned in that position. There was no need at that point.

But if it is not your guy, and one of us is being lied to then we have to do something. I will probably send you the name of my contact about 30 seconds or so before the deadline in case I am being played and get offed tonight. Out the bastard tomorrow if tres is not a wolf. I am going to wait in case I am wrong about you being innocent, so as to prevent you from hunting him immediately.

Fake Seers always make things messy. I hope mine is right, and the same contact as yours, otherwise I am dead anyway. Lets hope for the best. :(

Sincerely,
AOK
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Well, AOK, as a matter of fact, no. Whoever contacted you was not either of the 2 people who contacted me yesterday, claiming that I was a scanned villager. Especially since one of them told me (some time before -your- announcement, I might add) to do the following:

Official announcement from the ACTUAL Justice League

AOK. 11 is a Seer Scanned Wolf


AOK. 11 said:
I got a contact claiming you a scanned wolf, and I have a hard time seeing them lying to me. What do you want me to do?
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Well, AOK. I must commend your play here. Really. You felt my suspicion towards you, and decided to go all out in bringing as many villagers down with you as you could. And then you send me a PM to cover your tracks.

But really. You can't have been scanned AND been given a wolf to out in the same day. Your nonexistant response to my PM yesterday, the continued suspicion towards me even afterwards, it was a dead giveaway. The only thing I regret is letting the Seer waste a scan on you.

Oh, and people. I have several people who can publicly back me up about me telling them I had been seer scanned yesterday. Reis91. Rysz. Not to mention AOK. 11 himself, -and- my two not further to be named JL contacts.

Vote AOK. 11
 
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