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Najs said:
Having very little to go on I will just mention this post:



trespoe proclaims that he gets no baddie vibes from any of the three prominent lynch candidates Malurous (dead villager), Xeno (dead villager) and Vainglory (unknown). He continues by stating that he desires neither of them dead, yet he votes Xeno, claiming that voting anyone else would be worthless. At this point, 14:47, there is a good 7,5 hours before deadline and changing the frontrunners is certainly no impossibility. Thus I draw the conclusion that trespoe did desire one of the three dead and simply used all the pretty words as a safeguard for the future. Saying one thing, doing another.

Thus,
Vote trespoe
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whatever.

I do that every game. If my vote is being wasted I change to a frontrunner. I also go to work most times (like right now) so I won't see what happens the next 4-5 hours. I should be back before deadline.

At which time...

guess what...

I may change to a frontrunner, unless snoop is in contention.

you are correct about one thing, however. It usually is about keeping one particular player alive at certain times. For example, if Kiwi or Bags had been run up yesterday I would have protected them. Why them? Kiwi is a good analyzer, and Bags is a good RPer.
 
Some interesting points were made about snoopdogg. I'll add two.

He voted for me yesterday, based on a 'baddie tell' which was a blatant falsehood, since I hadn't even posted in the thread since the game started. Now, fine, for a day one vote I can accept pulling something out of your hat, but now he's back with his vote on me...

Also, he hasn't used his trademark "I'm not a wolf" once!

And also, keeping the tie interesting for a while longer.

VOTE SNOOPDOGG
 
Kingepyon said:
Vains defence doesn't strike me as vainwolf defence. He isn't as aggressive in his defence, and is more logical about it.

While it's suspicious that he's the only one left alive, I think we should consider new targets.

Vote Orangeyoshi

For reasons given in previous posts.
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The last time I heard Vain mention the run up A/B scan the other he was a wolf (in my first game Big CVIII), and I haven't seen him mention it elsewhere. reis provides the perfect retort to this (there is no seer).

I'm also worried about the quick bandwagon on OY. Therefore,

Vote Napoleon XIX.

And I think Vainglory may need to be run up again, but possibly later.
 
tamius23 said:
The last time I heard Vain mention the run up A/B scan the other he was a wolf (in my first game Big CVIII), and I haven't seen him mention it elsewhere. reis provides the perfect retort to this (there is no seer).

I'm also worried about the quick bandwagon on OY. Therefore,

Vote Napoleon XIX.

And I think Vainglory may need to be run up again, but possibly later.
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I'm not eliminating him as a suspect, but normally his defence when he is a wolf is a lot more intense. He gave a decently valid reason to not vote him without the usual intensity you see from vain when he gives his defence as a wolf. That's why I say he's not a good run up today.
 
Well watching you guys today has been entertaining. The wagon on me fell apart quicker than I thought it would, so bravo on that.

Vote tamius

Because really. Stop that. Forever. You are not Lemeard. You are not capable of making yourself adorable while being an idiot. So find a new thing.
 
Idiot reasoning against what I've said.

The argument that if we go A/B C/D we will miss wolves because they're runners up is extremely poorly thought out. It has been brought up repeatedly and shot down again. Never has anyone ever suggested that we should leave the runners up alone for the rest of the game. But they should be left alone until a strong case is assembled against them. Right now we've got very little information so we should get more by running up as many people as possible. And far from being a strong case against me, Reis's case is borderline circular thinking. It assumes that I am a wolf, and then explains everything I did in light of that. It proves nothing. He needs to establish that only if I were a wolf could all the events be explained adequately - he did nothing of the sort.

Meanwhile, it's been shown time and again that chasing our tails ends up with defeat. The village did exactly that in Meso II, picking over the runners up each day, and by the end of it the village as a whole had repeatedly ignored wolves in favor of villagers - the only wolf to get lynched was Falc, and he was a new candidate, not a runner up being brought back. This with the wolves actively trying to get one another lynched. Going around in circles will doom this village, and anyone who is in favor of that is suspicious.

As for Tami's claim that the last time I suggested A/B C/D I was a wolf: I have always advocated it, as a villager and as a wolf. Because as a wolf I don't herp and derp and utilizing some stupid strategy like trying to get away with constructing ties, or telling everyone to follow me in switches away from packmates. I just do what I'd do as a villager. We were in a JL together in a Lite, Tami, and I recommended it. We started that game off without that method, it was absolute confusion, and that village ended up entirely dependent on the JL. Which we don't have here.

But a chunk of the village ignored me and ran me up anyway. Congratulations on wasting valuable time in a game already slanted toward wolves.
 
Votecount, 1 hour to the deadline:


Vainglory -3- : reis91, enkhuush, drxav
snoopdogg -3- : trespoe, Capt. Kiwi, Falc
OrangeYoshi -3- : Napoleon XIX, Rendap, Kingepyon

Falc -1- : snoopdogg
enkhuush -1- : Vainglory
trespoe -1- : Najs
Napoleon XIX -1- : tamius23
tamius23 -1- : OrangeYoshi
 
3 Vainglory - Reis, Enkhuush, Drxav
3 Snoopdogg - Trespoe, Capt. Kiwi, Falc
3 OrangeYoshi - Napoleon XIX, Rendap, Kingepyon

1 Falc - Snoopdogg
1 Enkhuush - Vainglory
1 Najs - Trespoe
1 Napoleon XIX - Tamius23
1 Tamius23 - OrangeYoshi
 
Can we get 4 ties? xD Haha

Vote Najs!
 
Davisx3m said:
Hahaha ^^
Is it not a bigger chance we get the bad guys that way? xD
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Only on the same logic as if we all vote for another player on Day 1, such that everyone has 1 vote, and thus Day 1 ends with a massive tie, killing all the wolves, and all the villagers, resulting in a stalemate.
 
Vainglory said:
Only on the same logic as if we all vote for another player on Day 1, such that everyone has 1 vote, and thus Day 1 ends with a massive tie, killing all the wolves, and all the villagers, resulting in a stalemate.
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Wow :eek: Has that ever happened? xD
 
Oh for crying out loud don't you start as well.

With the number of players we have right now, a 4-way tie dilutes the information too much to draw any useful conclusions. Can we please get some more votes going for the frontrunners? Can the people voting throwaways please change their vote to one that has some weight behind it, some meaning and (preferably...) some thought?
 
Vainglory said:
Only on the same logic as if we all vote for another player on Day 1, such that everyone has 1 vote, and thus Day 1 ends with a massive tie, killing all the wolves, and all the villagers, resulting in a stalemate.
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We could just all vote for ourselves.
Davisx3m said:
Hahaha ^^
Is it not a bigger chance we get the bad guys that way? xD
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Generally not, as the front runners tend not to be bad guys, as bandwagons or just collections of votes on baddies tend to be dissipated by the other baddies running up goodies.
 
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