I suspect drxav. Vote drxav.
Edited: Also we don't have information regarding King aka Tornadoli.
Edited: Also we don't have information regarding King aka Tornadoli.
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Sorry, but that's nowhere near enough. If there aren't even the slightest guidelines, it's just anarchy with each GM allowing his buddies to keep playing and kicking out the guy that lynched him last game just because he's 5 seconds late.
No, it won't be possible to make a rule that correctly handles each and every situation. But it's pretty easy to write up a useful guideline that will at least clearly delineate where the limits to the GM's fiat are:
- Inactive players that fail to cast a vote are removed from the game.
- Clearly active players that fail to cast a vote are given 1 single reprieve per game. On their second offense in the same game, they are removed from it.
Determining whether a player is 'clearly active' or not is done by the GM. Possible criteria include but are not limited to:
- Amount of total posts in the thread
- Amount of posts in the last day
- Posting less than 15 minutes after the deadline
Posting a warning in advance is not an accepted excuse to be allowed to remain in the game. If you know you might not be able to vote later on, make a placeholder vote then and there.
The presence or not of a sub is not to be taken into account when deciding if a player will be allowed to remain in the game or not.
I don't remember seeing this ("meta-subbing"), do you have an example? From what I've seen it just varies from GM to GM and from game to game, I can't think of an "okay, A is subbed out but B keeps playing because I say so" situation.
Falc said:
The rest of your post makes sense to me, but with this I disagree. I think that taking a more lenient approach is certainly in order if the removal of the player = killing the role. It just isn't something that should be done lightly.
And I'm a bit on the fence here overall. When I GMed I chose to run zero tolerance and it worked fine, but I can see situations where it doesn't. And even for just analysis reasons I don't like it when not voting is simply ignored, like in one very recent game (I forget which one). So some rules set in stone might be good, but OTOH I wouldn't want to remove GM discretion completely. Different games just have a different "feel" in this sense IMO.
I'd be interested to hear if more people besides you see a serious issue here.
It seems to me this particular discussion belongs in the general werewolf discussion thread ..
This made me laugh. That is all.
You can do this village. The info is there now. Use the Force.
I think that both drxav and OY provided enough excuse to be left in the game. And I actually do not have any players who asked for the possibility of subbing in.
Votecount, roughly 6,5 hours to the deadline:
drxav -3- : trespoe, OrangeYoshi, enkhuush
OrangeYoshi -2- : Rendap, Napoleon XIX
trespoe -1- : Boris ze Spider
drxav -3- : trespoe, OrangeYoshi, enkhuush
OrangeYoshi -2- : Rendap, Napoleon XIX
trespoe -1- : Boris ze Spider
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Vote OY
For reasons stated back a few days ago, before he got saved because he died in another game.
Also tying it up.
For reasons stated back a few days ago, before he got saved because he died in another game.
Also tying it up.
The only prob is that it was Najs saving him, and we know now that Najs was a villager.
That has nothing to do with the vote. Just a mention of the day it was on. Also two wasted votes (even when he was being run up) to a vote that wasn't wasted and it just happened to be on a wolf makes me think alibi vote.
Ok I'm stuck fighting for my life in Big, so here's a quickie:
Suspect list: enkhuush, Rendap, reis91, Vainglory, Trespoe, drxav
There are 2 wolves left. I'd guess 2 of them will have voted Najs, and 2 will have dispersed their votes. I reckon one of them was voting Davis to alibi. We'll deal with that one later.
Najs voters: enkhuush, Rendap, reis91,
Throw-away: Vainglory, Trespoe, drxav
I know I'm not a wolf. I'll thus remove myself from that list for my own analysis, feel free to add me in it.
throw-away:
Vainglory: played with ties on day 1
Trespoe: voted Xeno on day 1
Trespoe apparently wants me dead. Why didn't he get me hunted yesterday? Perhaps because he wanted to hit the seer and knows a seer will just shut-up.
Trespoe's a bad lynch in my opinion.
Vain? Well, Vain is always a god lynch. Kiwi was hunted last night, thus proving once again wolves are pussies. I reckon it was Falc's ultimate order. But would Falc do it? That would be a provocation given the rather stiff conversation we had. Would Vain do it? Certainly.
VOTE VAINGLORY
Suspect list: enkhuush, Rendap, reis91, Vainglory, Trespoe, drxav
There are 2 wolves left. I'd guess 2 of them will have voted Najs, and 2 will have dispersed their votes. I reckon one of them was voting Davis to alibi. We'll deal with that one later.
Najs voters: enkhuush, Rendap, reis91,
Throw-away: Vainglory, Trespoe, drxav
I know I'm not a wolf. I'll thus remove myself from that list for my own analysis, feel free to add me in it.
throw-away:
Vainglory: played with ties on day 1
Trespoe: voted Xeno on day 1
Trespoe apparently wants me dead. Why didn't he get me hunted yesterday? Perhaps because he wanted to hit the seer and knows a seer will just shut-up.
Trespoe's a bad lynch in my opinion.
Vain? Well, Vain is always a god lynch. Kiwi was hunted last night, thus proving once again wolves are pussies. I reckon it was Falc's ultimate order. But would Falc do it? That would be a provocation given the rather stiff conversation we had. Would Vain do it? Certainly.
VOTE VAINGLORY
I'd be worried if I turned out a wolf.
Take it easy, I just copy-pasted from my previous analysis.
I'm really really busy in Big.
