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why was alxeu taken as granted as good? he had zombie hunter but i don't remember why that was remarkable

I got lynched for stating that he was suspicious. Lazy yes, but I was right.
 
why was alxeu taken as granted as good? he had zombie hunter but i don't remember why that was remarkable

I hunted a cultist zombie, and people assumed I was good as no baddie in their right mind would take zombie hunter.
 
see, i completely missed picking points in my first role, and i subbed in the second, so I never picked points Sad! :(
 
I think people were too quick to assume that no baddie would take zombie hunter. Indeed it is far more expensive than would be beneficial to the baddies, but that's exactly why a baddie might take it, since they would be assumed to be a villager if they used it. Granted that's not what actually happened, nor did I think alxeu was the type of player to make such a move, but I was rather perplexed by how easily and wide spread people blindly accepted "zombie hunter= goodie".

And Tornadoli is still a retard.
 
why was alxeu taken as granted as good? he had zombie hunter but i don't remember why that was remarkable
Zombie hunter was 5 points for both types of baddies.
I was perplexed that no one suspected that I robbed lemeard for the zombie hunter. I'm pretty sure he said he was a zombie hunter when he was robbed, but one would have to double check.
He never did mention it; in fact the way he presented it it appeared he'd been a traitless seer. That was why people thought you clear. Choosing zombie hunter as a baddie was extremely moronic and as Lem had revealed being seer and his scans (which was questionable), but not told anything about having had traits we plain and simply never considered the possibility of him having had it.

It was a very high point value trait for us baddies to take, and all of us had forgotten about the possibility he was a robber. Lem never mentioned he was a zombie hunter i dont think
I actually did think of the possibility of robber; in fact I repeatedly thought that it was moronic to choose zombie hunter when the same amount of points gave you robber or cloak (or sorc or brutal for unattached). It just never dawned upon me that Lem might have had traits he didn't make public. I really have no idea why he kept that hidden.
 
see, i completely missed picking points in my first role, and i subbed in the second, so I never picked points Sad! :(
Why did you miss it in your first role?
In retrospect though, it would have been a very smart thing to take since it can insta-clear you
That actually was what I thought had happened when I saw the snipes; hence my "good job alxeu" comment.
 
Why did you miss it in your first role?

I wasn't on the forum when the roles were generated and didn't come back until after the pickpoint deadline
 
Oh please. I realised Hax was in the last day but from THAT??


I think people were too quick to assume that no baddie would take zombie hunter. Indeed it is far more expensive than would be beneficial to the baddies, but that's exactly why a baddie might take it, since they would be assumed to be a villager if they used it. Granted that's not what actually happened, nor did I think alxeu was the type of player to make such a move, but I was rather perplexed by how easily and wide spread people blindly accepted "zombie hunter= goodie".

And Tornadoli is still a retard.
Alxeu would never have chosen zombie hunter as a baddie, though. But maybe it wasn't correct for ramius to assume that in general, but for me it certainly was. I stand by it. I also never saw a post by Lem claiming he was a zombie hunter. Must have missed it.

And I was right about Audren too.

And you guys are idiots for voting for Horny as well. I initially tried to get you guys to vote zombie. You didn't. Eventually I managed to lynch the baddie. I had EXPLICITLY said that ONE OUT OF THREE of them was likely a baddie. Yet, after lynching the ONE baddie reluctantly, you then suddenly decide it's a great idea to vote zombie. That is pants on head dumb.

Congrats to wolves, you were cowardly and had outrageous luck, but you did technically win the game and no one can take that away from you.


Thanks for hosting Johho. This was a fun game to play my last on, but I won't be returning for many reasons. If the community picks up I might GM.
 
Apart from stealing zh there were other ways to gain that trait like lady luck, letting me pick, a damsel save.

What JCan talked about was me accidentally guving him two ghost whisper result for just one gw. Didnt actually change anything for JM since he was seen by the padre but it might have cleared jcan rather than Kai
 
I had EXPLICITLY said that ONE OUT OF THREE of them was likely a baddie. Yet, after lynching the ONE baddie reluctantly, you then suddenly decide it's a great idea to vote zombie. That is pants on head dumb.
You knew for certain there was only one baddie zombie out of the three?
 
The thing is after last night, after a red wolf died, the village had to logically aim more for a yellow baddie than a red one, not knowing anything. In actuality, the village did NOTHING, but even if they had tried it would have been hard. I mean I'd have lynched Audren as per my analysis. But after that, and him also being a red, I would then really have to had to go for yellows and then I can't lynch Hax or Jcan at that point. The assymetric pack size, the difference in it, was impossible to anticipate.
 
You knew for certain there was only one baddie zombie out of the three?
I did say it was likely, if anyone bothered to read my posts. Certain, no, but maybe about 80% or so. It's too unbalancing to do anything else.

You want the zombie population to be more or less a representative sample of the roster. So, a third of players are baddies ----> a third of zombies baddies. I assume, as well, although I cannot know because johho hasn't put the pack names in the first page or on the winning post, but I assume that Brown Demon was probably attached to the yellow pack at game start, as well. You don't want one pack to have 2 zombies and the other none.
 
I did say it was likely, if anyone bothered to read my posts. Certain, no, but maybe about 80% or so. It's too unbalancing to do anything else.
Well then sorry, but it wasn't 'pants on head dumb'.
I had a feeling Bronzeleg wasn't a baddie, but there was no way I could tell that horny99 wasn't.
 
Zombies were interesting and a good thing to try out, but I don't think they should be used again for the reasons Wagon mentioned, i.e difficulty to analyze and inability to countersnipe late game.
I agee but they were No worse than the normal player zombies. If someone had bothered to look at notok's votes you could actually see she didnt go for any of her packmates.
 
I agee but they were No worse than the normal player zombies. If someone had bothered to look at notok's votes you could actually see she didnt go for any of her packmates.
Hey, I did! I compiled every post he made!
Well then sorry, but it wasn't 'pants on head dumb'.
I had a feeling Bronzeleg wasn't a baddie, but there was no way I could tell that horny99 wasn't.
I actually thought you had won. Sorry for being brusque.

Truth be told I didn't think I'd die that night. There were much more cleared targets (you, Kaiser, and Hax if he hadn't have gotten deus ex machinad into a wolf) and I thought the wolves might let me live a while on my last game. I had intended to publish a bit more stuff with more cleared instructions, but I was tired. In the end everything I had was in that monster post and my post voting Not OK.
 
Pack size were symmetrical. De chat was the only red cultist. Sleepy started as a Free cultist. The rest were yellow cultists.

The reds actually started with two zombies since the merge/redinc started as a zombie