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I refer you to the programming note in the first update.
*Programming Note: There shall be no distinction in game updates between werewolf hunts, hunter hunts, and van Helsing hunts.
 
johho888: 3
BlackCrown [440]
Beamed [460]
Daleksbane [473]

Cliges2: 2
Audren [446]
jeray2001 [453]

Black_Griffin: 1
Gen. Skobelev [465]

Health: 1
deathbywombat [468]

deathbywombat: 1
Sleepyhead [469]

not voted: 10
the_hdk []
johho888 []
Eternaly_Lost []
Claude LC []
Steed []
Health []
Cliges2 []
Arkasas []
Black_Griffin []
punkbob []
 
That does seem to be the theory.

Right. I dunno, it just seems a bit too easy with 3 pack members voting together. Also, Johho has been run up few times already (granted, he bled a lot of votes quickly yesterday to alynkio) so I would prefer seeing some unknowns up there rather than running Johho up today again.


I'm pretty sure cliges, punkbob, and beamed all aren't CU wolves at least, since they've all voted for a confirmed one while they weren't really in the running for being lynched. Since I really can't tell much past that(yet):
Vote Johho

That was at the very start of day 3 when people piled up very quickly on Jackson. It could have been half-joke, could have been serious vote but Uncle Nasse has his nose telling him it's not completely outlandish for a packmate to put quick alibi vote in as bandwagon on the first minutes of the day rarely last to the very end of voting cycle. But I guess real vote with intent to kill is just as, or even more likely, explanation.


@Gen. Skobelev: I would want alynioki to be from the other pack because then we would have something to work with there. He was lynched on the suspicion of helping to save k-59 though.

Someone said Jacksonian was a poor hunt but he did cast an important vote late to get alikokio lynched and he was already somewhat cleared by accidentally helping to save k-59 so i akokilyo was in the hunting pack they might have thought him too much cleared and wanted him gone. That could suggest alkolyiko was from the other pack.

But really it's impossible to know.

Yeah, that's pretty much my take on it. I guess "voting k-59 on false premise (alynkio saving packmate)" is more likely than "k-59 deliberately votes packmate to death when he himself isn't in danger".


There is a contradiction in the two-pack theory. Each and every turn we have only received one hunted player, as such, it seems there is only one pack. Maybe Steed or the Helsing used their execution ability on Jackson? Previous records show that Helsing shows up as hunted.

Eh? There's usually only one pack hunting per night. I guess it's debatable if the pattern is ABAB, ABBA (aedan getting hit on 2 nights in a row) or something else.
 
Yeah, that's pretty much my take on it. I guess "voting k-59 on false premise (alynkio saving packmate)" is more likely than "k-59 deliberately votes packmate to death when he himself isn't in danger".
Not sure I follow you there. Should one of the k-59 maybe be Jackson?

If I have to pick I'd say alynkio only wanted a big TIE and accidentally seemed to try to save k-59 is more likely than Jackson killing packmate-alynioki for no apparent reason (unless you think me, Jackson, k-59 and alynkio are all in the same team but in that case why would I have picked alynkio over one of the Blacks when trying to get someone closing in on me)
 
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Little Johho is very sharp today! He noticed immediately what was the magic trick about this time - I had made Jacksonian Missionary vanish and replaced by k-59. Good work little Johho, now just remember to send Uncle Nasse 10 marks and photos of your mother and Nasse will send you this very great picture of yourself. (and yes, there should have been 1 Jacksonian and not two k-59s)

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And yeah, that's what I think is more likely after Jacksonian went to vote alky. And that's why I question all the votes on you now since to me it seems there are quite few more deserving candidates who haven't yet seen much, if any action.




Yeah, sorry about that, I guess that makes my point mute.​

No worries - though your point was pretty weird but then I suppose it's understandable since Euro isn't using the most standard practise in this game.
 
I'm a little behind on the yesterdays going ons with work commitments.. I will look through but could be a shadey attempt at spotting a good candidate to can today.
I will put Johho on the shelf for today and see if anybody stands out better.
 
Vote AUDREN

His voting is very back and forth, jumping around each day. It would be criminal to let a show go out in such condition.
Can it off and get a more adventurous, gun wielding, heroic horse program on for the public to be engrossed in..
 
I object to killing Tam on Day 1 because it's been ages since he's played in a Werewolf game.

I concur. We kill Health and/or Cliges.

Why? You seem oddly confident and resolved for day 1.



Campaigning up until the last minute.

Cue 5 idiots who will rush on and vote me for defending a baddie or whatever.

He was, though. Just pointing that out.

"but Jaaaaaackson, he was the sorcerer! you're obviously his packmaaaaate!"

We know Audren likes trying to disclaim responsibility for himself and others.


I'm giving him a second chance.

He's also giving another of the Cliges I voters a second chance, incidentally.


This is a terrible affront on human decency, and I'm not sure jeray's actions are inherently malicious. This, on the other hand, is the work of Iblis.

UNVOTE JERAY
VOTE SLEEPYHEDA



Villager Jeray is lynched

Oh, Audren didn't want left around with that jeray vote. What could have prompted that?[/QUOTE]


I'm not entirely sure I understand the case on johho. Inactivity? His activity thus far doesn't seem unusual to me. I'm more interested in alynkio for swooping in on De Chat while k-59 was in the running.

VOTE ALYNKIO

I am disappointed that alynkio isn't taking off as a candidate. I won't be on for deadline, so to make my vote more powerful, I'll go onto Panzer, who has his own issues and fits well with alynkio as a packmate.

UNVOTE ALYNKIO
VOTE PANZER

I counted wrong, I thought Panzer had more votes than he did. No reason to switch off my preferred candidate, then.

UNVOTE PANZER
VOTE ALYNKIO

So Audren manages to vote one cultist, and that means there is a "Panzer Alynkio Connection".


I'm sorry but the most generous interpretation I can offer regarding Audren's WW praxis thus far is misguided at best.

This isn't the time for experiments.
 
I'm not really sure what the case is on any of these candidates, save Griffin, so I too shall

Vote Audren

I knew villager Audren. I played with villager Audren. Sir, you're no villager Audren.
 
Hmm... I really don't think that we'd get much from lynching johho at this point, when we have other cases that we could follow up on. I feel that Aud is definitely odd and I'd like to look deeper into him.

VOTE AUD
 
I'm not really sure what the case is on any of these candidates, save Griffin, so I too shall

Vote Audren

I knew villager Audren. I played with villager Audren. Sir, you're no villager Audren.

Hmm... I really don't think that we'd get much from lynching johho at this point, when we have other cases that we could follow up on. I feel that Aud is definitely odd and I'd like to look deeper into him.

VOTE AUD


Audren vote record does not look good at all. His voting history makes me think he a packmate of Jacksonian Missionary, namely the Cinematic Universes, trying to cover himself with his votes.

It would be in our interests to lynch him and see what his true role is, but I am almost certain it a baddie attached to the Cinematic Universe, in some fassion.

Vote Audren

Yes, I know this is the third vote on him in a row, but you got to go with your best choice for a wolf, regardless of who else has voted for him.
 
this bandwagon is absurd and Health is being blatantly hypocritical.

Hmm... I'll take a shot at the Whack-a-Mole game that wombat gave us.

Audren is I Love Lucy reruns
- Aud is doing his bit and being reasonably active, the second most active player. He also participated in the lynching of the cultist. Leaning more towards goodie, because I'd expect baddie Aud to not be so active
[Panzer Commader] Cliges is Buffy the Vampire Slayer - I'm still expecting that explanation, why no body should listen to Aud.

Note both how generally positively he regards me in Wombat's Game and how he wants an "explanation" (strange wording, since I'm not asking Cliges for anything but to die). These are not the words of someone suspecting me.

Hmm... I really don't think that we'd get much from lynching johho at this point, when we have other cases that we could follow up on. I feel that Aud is definitely odd and I'd like to look deeper into him.

VOTE AUD

Yet look at this! suddenly makes a complete turnface without any indication of a change in mind or further analysis. He's changing his vote because I'm apparently an easy case. This is wildly wolfish, arguably moreso than Cliges.


Vote AUDREN

His voting is very back and forth, jumping around each day. It would be criminal to let a show go out in such condition.
Can it off and get a more adventurous, gun wielding, heroic horse program on for the public to be engrossed in..

your information is outdated. I've been rather steady after Day 2.

Why? You seem oddly confident and resolved for day 1.




Campaigning up until the last minute.



He was, though. Just pointing that out.



We know Audren likes trying to disclaim responsibility for himself and others.




He's also giving another of the Cliges I voters a second chance, incidentally.








Oh, Audren didn't want left around with that jeray vote. What could have prompted that?








So Audren manages to vote one cultist, and that means there is a "Panzer Alynkio Connection".


I'm sorry but the most generous interpretation I can offer regarding Audren's WW praxis thus far is misguided at best.

This isn't the time for experiments.[/QUOTE]

you're missing the important context behind my "connection," mainly that Panzer gave abysmal reasoning for not voting you when you were rising in contention. This is wildly suspicious, especially in context of alynkio's alignment. y'all are using my jumpiness Day 1 to discredit the entirety of my actions.

I'm not really sure what the case is on any of these candidates, save Griffin, so I too shall

Vote Audren

I knew villager Audren. I played with villager Audren. Sir, you're no villager Audren.

meaningless paraphrasing without any context or explanation. A vote devoid of content.

Audren vote record does not look good at all. His voting history makes me think he a packmate of Jacksonian Missionary, namely the Cinematic Universes, trying to cover himself with his votes.

It would be in our interests to lynch him and see what his true role is, but I am almost certain it a baddie attached to the Cinematic Universe, in some fassion.

Vote Audren

Yes, I know this is the third vote on him in a row, but you got to go with your best choice for a wolf, regardless of who else has voted for him.

No indication of why my voting history fits well with Jackson (which it doesn't). Who am I covering? Me? Jackson? Either way it doesn't make sense.

This is a runaway bandwagon overseen by people who ought to know better. Health's hypocrisy is exposed, and I daresay it's a better case than Cliges.

UNVOTE CLIGES
VOTE HEALTH


for blatantly changing his opinion on me to fit the herd without the slightest indication of introspection or further thought. He's looking for an easy kill. Don't let him.

Cliges is still suspicious af, though. Kill him too.
 
Audren: 4
Steed [489]
Arkasas [492]
Health [493]
Eternaly_Lost [494]

johho888: 3
BlackCrown [440]
Beamed [460]
Daleksbane [473]

Health: 2
deathbywombat [468]
Audren [446 Cliges2 -> 495]

Cliges2: 1
jeray2000 [453]

Black_Griffin: 1
Gen. Skobelev [465]

deathbywombat: 1
Sleepyhead [469]

Arkasas: 1
the_hdk [491]

not voted: 5
johho888 []
Claude LC []
Cliges2 []
Black_Griffin []
punkbob []
 
Not really crazy about Audren. He was involved in getting alynokio up as a candidate yesterday so he should be cleared from one of the packs.

If we look at yesterday I was bandwagoned and had a hugh lead. Usually there will form a counter-wagon or at the very least someone will like "to make it closer". There were two options for this aikokoliy and Blackie. Arkasas made it 3:3 by voting Blackie. That could be a soft push to get akokolyi out of danger. However he do have a good vote against k-59 so he would only fit with the second pack.

Health was voted by k-59 but that was so close to deadline it didn't really matter. Not sure if k-59 would be more likely to vote a packmate with a late throw-away or not. Probably not. Health was sitting with an early vote on BlackCrown during all of yestday.

Cliges2/Panzer also was on BlackCrown with an early vote throughout yesterday. Had a throw-away on Jackson (CU) and another throw-way ob Sleepy day 2.

Black_Griffin is a zombie.

deathbywombat had that strange bragging about being a good baddie yesterday, voted me two days in a row (but picked someone else today at least) and Audren before that.

Of these I get the most baddie vibe from Arkasas but there is that k-59 vote...