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Good morning all. I'm in a bit of a daze, having spent the better chunk of last week plotting, backstabbing, frontstabbing and otherwise pushing Persian national interests at the EUIV Grandest LAN Party in Poland. It was an incredible event and a personal highlight of the year. As first act of returning to normal everyday game dev life in Sweden, I'm bringing you another Development Diary. Today we will look at a variety of features, both free in the 1.23 Persia Update and part of the accompanying Cradle of Civilization expansion.

Firstly, a free addition to the game is that we have added Religions and Cultures to Advisors, Rulers, Heirs and Consorts. Depending on where your advisors spawn from, they will have that province's religion and culture, which will be immediately visible next to their portrait, with the icon of that religion, and a star indicating if their culture is primary, promoted or otherwise.

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Ruler, Heir and Consort cultures and religions will be visible in their tooltips and will primarily be that of their nation, but there are events, both new and revisited old ones to spawn certain peoples and show interactions between various faiths and cultures in your Court.

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Does the state really need the money?

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Now while the Culture and Religion in your court is available for all nations, let's look at a nation where historically this mattered a lot: Mamluks.

Mamluks now have their titular unique Government type: The Mamluk Government, where the ruling class' culture is of great importance. The Mamluks do not get heirs or consorts but always get a new Sultan on Monarch death. The Mamluks nation will decide if they would like to be governed by a Sultan from their own cultures' lands or take a slave ruler from further afield. Historically and in our setup, they will be able to bring in Circassian rulers, who are seen to have high legitimacy over ruling the nation, but you can elect to choose a ruler from lands of other cultures within your nation. While these Sultans will have lower legitimacy, scaling with the amount of your culture lands they have, they will have another advantage in using their Cultural Interactions.

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Each year the Mamluk Government will gain 3+ruler ADM/DIP/MIL stat for each of their cultural interactions which can be used as follows:
  • ADM Action: Promote [ruler culture] in Government
    • Gain -5% all power cost for 1 years.
  • DIP Action: Sell off [ruler culture] slaves
    • Gain ( Development of ruler’s culture * 2 *current Age ) ducats
  • MIL action: Recruit from [ruler culture] lands
    • Gain ( Development of ruler’s culture land * 50 * current Age ) manpower
So while a home-grown Sultan may start with low legitimacy, you may prefer them over a more stable alternative to get more out of your interactions. Additionally, spreading and conquering certain cultures may be of more interest for the Mamluks.

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Additionally, the Mamluk Government itself will give +2 to all Sultans' ADM stat, and allow extra cultures to be promoted, depending on the Government Rank of the nation. Promoting cultures is also 50% cheaper for a nation with Mamluk Government. Now I say "a nation with Mamluk Government" instead of just "The Mamluks" because an Iqta nation who holds Cairo while the Mamluks have been wiped out can adopt the Government for themselves.

Speaking of Iqtas, them themselves will see a change in Cradle of Civilization. an Iqta nation will have incentive to have subjects by way of their Taxation Policies. Every 20 years an Iqta nation can set their Taxation policies and gain a lump-sum of resources depending on their subjects' development and a modifier on the nation for the duration of the policy.
  • Efficient tax farming: +15% National Tax Modifier, +2*total subject development ducats
  • Land Acquisition: -5% Core creation cost, +50*total subject development manpower
  • Lenient Taxation: -15% Subject Liberty Desire, +1 diplomatic Reputation
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It has been speculated before but yes, Timurids no longer start out as a Steppe Nomad. They are an Iqta with a large amount of subjects and foreign cores. They start at Empire rank to boot.

So that's our lot today. Changes in the Courtroom as part of the Persia Update, with Mamluk Government's Culture Interactions and Iqta Taxation Policies with the Cradle of Civilization Expansion. Next week we'll look at something completely different.

Since our Dev Clash ended last week, our team is enjoying a break from Tuesday hostilities and, depending on whome, are busy enjoying their reflection in their trophy. Tuesday Dev Clashes will return in a few weeks.
 
If we are talking about Jews by the way don't forget most of them were in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (not in Egypt and surrounding areas), something like 80% Jews of all world.
 
How will ruler culture affect Poland and Elective Monarchy? Will Poland be forever penalised for having wrong culture/religion ruler? Where there made any changes to make it possible for Poland/PLC to decide who get's elected the new king instead of random nations pushing their 1-0-1?

Suggestion: would it be possible to have Poland (as in Polish Nobles) go and seek out candidates for next Kings aboard (they would spend their diplomat on this). Process of looking for heir to the throne could be limited to few years of Interregnum after former monarch death (also an event or some other mechanic could be used to seat one of his dynastic relatives on the throne (son or more distant ones). Hmm. When Polish king has a dynastic heir the player (nobles) can decide to make him their king, otherwise Poland enters an Interregnum period to seek out new King.
If candidate is of low stats they can just stop promoting him. There would be drawback to this. If a nation of the candidate is strong they can decide to push his claim on Polish throne if he was one of the 3 pretenders. This could either result in getting PU over Poland/PLC or change dynasty (and removing Elective Monarchy). If foreign pretender manages to take the throne of Poland then he could risk and uprising to dethrone him and reinstitute Elective Monarchy.

(should I repost this idea in suggestion forum?)

With nations of many cultures from different groups like Poland (Polish, Ruthenian and Prussian) and later PLC (add Lithuanian, and bunch of Russian cultures) how will this affect their stability and chances of success in the hands on AI?
Ottomans on the other hand have easy targets of conquest with same religion (or in same group) and in same culture group.
 
Why Mamluks got buff this much ?

They were disorganised, incoherent nation, but their rulers have at least 2 Admin points. I can understand Prussia's +2 points, they really deserve that, but mamluks buff ? Is this a joke ?

You are nerfing Ottomans to oblivion absurdly.

You guys really have allergy towards us.

I'm really disappointed.
I didnt believe in the sevres-syndrome until now.
 
View attachment 305384 This was the screenshot I wanted to take.

I was wondering if the Bahariya province is supposed to correspond to the Bahariya oasis. If so, I think the province name is swapped with the name of the Buhaira province since the Bahariya oasis is north of Farafra, which would be the Farafreh province, and I guess Buhaira corresponds to the governorate that is next to the Nile.
 
How will ruler culture affect Poland and Elective Monarchy? Will Poland be forever penalised for having wrong culture/religion ruler? Where there made any changes to make it possible for Poland/PLC to decide who get's elected the new king instead of random nations pushing their 1-0-1?

Suggestion: would it be possible to have Poland (as in Polish Nobles) go and seek out candidates for next Kings aboard (they would spend their diplomat on this). Process of looking for heir to the throne could be limited to few years of Interregnum after former monarch death (also an event or some other mechanic could be used to seat one of his dynastic relatives on the throne (son or more distant ones). Hmm. When Polish king has a dynastic heir the player (nobles) can decide to make him their king, otherwise Poland enters an Interregnum period to seek out new King.
If candidate is of low stats they can just stop promoting him. There would be drawback to this. If a nation of the candidate is strong they can decide to push his claim on Polish throne if he was one of the 3 pretenders. This could either result in getting PU over Poland/PLC or change dynasty (and removing Elective Monarchy). If foreign pretender manages to take the throne of Poland then he could risk and uprising to dethrone him and reinstitute Elective Monarchy.

(should I repost this idea in suggestion forum?)

With nations of many cultures from different groups like Poland (Polish, Ruthenian and Prussian) and later PLC (add Lithuanian, and bunch of Russian cultures) how will this affect their stability and chances of success in the hands on AI?
Ottomans on the other hand have easy targets of conquest with same religion (or in same group) and in same culture group.


That needs deeper rework of Poland than only goverment with changing no accurate military NI(making PLC by the way a bit too strong before Third Russia, now it's kinda balanced) like Piechota Wybraniecka (they were innovative, paper cartridge invented by Batory in his reform was crucial for Musket warfare but reform itself was bad, and PLC never really used it properly in contrast to neighbours exploiting it but making "wybraniecki" system really effective like devs homeland Sweden as best example, infantry combat ability is not that bad because cossacs infantry and foreign section were very potent but not main infantry forces like pospolite ruszenie/levée en masse , manpower isn't that accurate) or Wojsko Komputowe (cheaper army ? what? Poland kept mostly small outstanding and more expensive armies mobilizing poor mass only when necessary) and "Found the Foreign Section" is fine as PLC used mercenaries (but they were constant as a core of Infantry, cheaper than normal mercenaries because of very extended contract, and very well trained, but as i said cheaper than mercenaries not normal infantry), Focus on Field Defense is fine too, but i think it should be giving less morale (and adding new bonus, fire defence as PLC infantry was defensive and focused on making opportunity for rapid cavalry critical strike) .

But it's not that i think all military NI should be deleted and poland is too strong, it's just not accurate, Winged Hussars should get smaller bonus and change name to "mailed companion"( original "Pancerni" like panzer second core cavalry, not that rich equipped but effective too, better than Spahisi if we are on Ottomans topic), and Hussars should get Elite Status, hugely expensive but really strong too (that's something i am waiting since manchu bannermans, as hussars deserve being elite much more), and versatile ( 5 meters disposable lance hitched to saddle against pikemans able to break through 3 lines, sabre adjusted to riding fight, koncerz estoc type weapon against heavy armored, and persian-turkmen most expensive horses nimbleness enough to catch up light cavalry, of course all of it at high cost of 2kilograms of silver per year, a lot of lands and privileges ).

I think Elective Monarchy should be totally changed, your propositions are good, i would expand that changing Legitimacy to Golden Liberty points ( making it more Sarmatian, and more possible to get elite units at cost of things like less income, very expensive fortresses as they despised sieges, and siege effectivness too, worse infantry etc etc, but lower adding opposite bonuses like strong and loyal cossacs infantry ) or to just some Noble Support Status and making Golden Liberty separate mechanic, as Legitimacy doesn't really matter in PLC, it's nobles and country interests and authority. Jews were important part of PLC (as i said 80% of world, much more than mamluks) and every change of culture influence on countries should include PLC as very multicultural and religious tolerant country.

But yea, most important is India(probably most bypassed of all important regions) i think, i don't know enough about region to propose flavour but they really need it,Timurids aren't enough.
Ottomans may look weak now but we'll see after expansion, they are too strong at the moment for sure.
 
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If Mamluks reform into Egypt, do they loose their government then? I figure that would be reasonable, but preferably there would be some sort of payoff giving some sort of benefit to a switch like that.
 
Then about Polish Elective Monarchy - will foreign heirs & rulers have culture of their supporting country? And is that possible that they will have their cultural correct names i.e. Thomas York instead Tomasz York?
 
Consider again, i don't have that syndrome. Don't assume, just ask.

The thing is Ottomans always been the most op nation in the game (arguably on par with other blobs such as France etc), for years people are crying "nerf Ottomans too op pls nerf". And when finally one single nerf happens (and still except losing some CCR in previous patch and cores now, the only "nerf" is a buff to their neighbours) you react as if it was a conspiracy, motivated by some kind of hatred towards Turkey or Turkish people. I know some topics are sensitive, myself as a french speakin swiss, I don't like when people assume I'm speaking german, but those are game mechanics, motivated by game design reflexions. Some are good, some might be bad, but don't take it personnally, we're here to play and have fun, not to get concerned and annoyed by some "real world politics" issues.
 
Really like the the culture and religion idea... but, Question

Will the Inquisitor always be of your religion and culture?

Also I assume the Cyrpto- Catholics event has been change to reflect the change.

Otherwise. Love all that I see, might be the first time I play as Mamluks:)
 
I honestly miss France being as scary as the OE is, every game. They seem so passive now in most games.
But still blobbing, they are fine
"Ottomans will literally die every game because every single neighbor beats them 1v1."
not really, Mamluks will be strong and Persia will be dangerous later but Otto at the moment is able to rekt Hungary Austria and Bohemia alone early game even without jannisaries bonus anyway, we will see, if it's gonna be too weak Paradox will buff it.