So, will CK III be able to handle BC/BCE dates? Or negative years of any other calendar, for that matter?
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I second OP's question. I would really like to see actual Augustus birth year ingame
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if for whatever reason you need to use BC, just use A.V.C, as having BC pre-Christ makes no since
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Hence the BCE in the title, the accepted secular alternative.
Haven't heard of AVC though. Fill me in?
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Ab Urbe Condita, "since the city's (Rome) founding", used in EU Rome and Imperator to avoid negative year issues.
O rip, was thinking in terms of modern dating
Would that require switching to AVC upon reaching zero, or do the entirety of CK3 in AVC? The latter feels as silly as BC in BC.
Would that require switching to AVC upon reaching zero, or do the entirety of CK3 in AVC? The latter feels as silly as BC in BC.
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Just use Byzantine time which counts from when they believed the world was created. So 1066 is 6574 or augustus's birth date is 5446
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You are making fun guys, but actually BC dating would be great for historical characters. They do not need to be playable, it would just be fun to see Ceasar in history of Roman Empire title or ancient pharaos in k_egypt history. Alexander the Great in k_greece. Darius in e_persia. Or even Leonidas with badass unyielding trait.
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What would be interesting is different calendars for different nations/cultures. So if you play as a Muslim nation you get the Muslim calendar (so it be like year 300), for the Romans you can use the roman calendar, the jews the jewish one (year 4000 for them i think in the game) etc......
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Nothing to do with the topic, but if you wanted to create a secular calander, don't use BCE and ACE and pretend like it's not about the Christian era. There's nothing common about it. It's Christian. You just removed the name. If you want a true secular calendar, choose a secular 0 year. Can be the transition from republic to empire if that's convenient because it's similar, or you can choose the founding of Troy as where western civilization really began-ish. IDK. But don't culturally appropriate Christian calendars. That's just dumb.
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All dating is arbitrary and merely a system we use to help make sense of the world.
The secular BCE/CE may take from Christian BC/AD, but it's taking the numbers that are already used and makes sense to those using them and divorces it from its religious origins.
Lazy? Perhaps, but easy to let 2019 stay 2019 instead of coming up with a new system and reconverting all of history. Makes sense or no? As much as any other dating system.
The secular BCE/CE may take from Christian BC/AD, but it's taking the numbers that are already used and makes sense to those using them and divorces it from its religious origins.
Lazy? Perhaps, but easy to let 2019 stay 2019 instead of coming up with a new system and reconverting all of history. Makes sense or no? As much as any other dating system.
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Yes, the Common Era is the Common Era because that's what's used in most places nowadays, not because it was originally invented by Christians. The fact that AD became the Common Era is an accident of the way history played out in Western Europe. It could well have been that a different era gained popularity had some completely different history happened, and then that era would be the Common Era instead. I think the Common Era is probably irrelevant to CK2, though, I imagine the situation was quite different at the time.
"Pre-" is a prefix literally meaning "before", so it completely makes sense to use BC for dates before Christ. What it wouldn't make any sense for is to use it for dates after Christ.
Granted, guinea prince is correct--all dating systems are arbitrary to a certain degree. And let's not even get into the fact that when using the BC/AD system, we're probably using the wrong year for 1 AD.
That would be interesting. But I think it would make it confusing for most players, who understand the dates on the Gregorian calendar pretty intuitively, but might not be able to convert between different calendar systems quite so easily.
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This is exactly why it would be a useful feature. Paradox already has to fudge some dates because of this issue, and hopefully, CK3 will have an even richer array of past characters than CK2.
I think I saw somewhere that CK3 will use ruler-based years. So the year 1066 will display as "Year 7 of King Phillip's reign" for everyone in France, "Year 11 of Emperor Henry IV's reign" in the HRE, etc.
I honestly have not seen BCE ACE used anywhere beyond college text books and occationally government documents.
Don't be lazy. Don't steal other's inventions. Invent your own calendar based off a valuable secular center point.
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Not sure if that's true. The images we have available of CK3 show the date in its old format.
On the other hand, they actually point out it's "1067 A.D.", while in CK2 the date label is not featured, so they might include negative dates. Of course, this is pure speculation, as including AD could also easily be for aesthetic purposes.
As someone with a variety of dys disorders, I cannot stand BCE/CE. Why did they have to make acronyms that are so similar?