Chat currently at capacity will fill you in as best I can when I get homeMe too please
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So is Caillean a scanned wolf? If not, I don't see why she would get preference over Euro post-fake outing.Yeah, Caillean first, then Euro, and then whoever the seer picks up, if they're still alive by then, is the current lynch order!
It's too bad the guy who normally does them got lynched. Such a shame.Is anyone capable of doing one of those coloured counts?
Shut up, Wesley!URGE. TO. COMMENT. RISING.
MUST. RETAIN. CONTROL.
Dedonus.Elowen gave me Dedonus's name
Vote Elowen
Oh, I definetly agree with this. I meant that there was not much behavioral info in this game and wondered if you have specific conclusions based on tells like behavior, not if you knew of tells outside of votecount analysis.There's other material to look at, such as people's voting activity and behavior. This isn't an exact science, but I find the actions of players, and where they fit in the vote flow, to be far more telling than hamfisted analysis of final votecounts and rigid assumptions. In any event, I wasn't making a conclusive point in that post, merely providing pushback to the serious flaws I saw in the analysis Dedonus was putting forward. I'd already made my vote and case on elowen earlier.
Okay then, if you say Euro is a legendary beast, I'll be careful. I still like what he did, though; it doesn't benefit scum to place weird votes and then carefreely explain when explainations are requested. There could be WIFOM involved here, but that's a rabbit hole we don't need to go into. Unless he truly is a mastermind at WIFOM or the tell I'm using is too weak (that's possible), he's town.Don't be so quick to write off Euro as a goodie, he's very prone to erratic behavior, regardless of role. He absolutely is the sort to openly question an outing and vote a JL spokesperson as a wolf. He'd do the same as a villager if it struck his fancy, so it's not a wolf tell, but keep him in consideration.
Right. But the opposite happened yesterday it seems lol... I assume there was a fake outing that generate this, but even considering that, shouldn't we have straight up ignored it instead of lynching a relatively towny guy (who was counting votes quite nicely!)? There certainly is something fishy in this EoD, and I'm gonna try to analyze that.I'm in agreement. I think a Caillean/Elowen tie would be best. Euro's also a good candidate to watch, though probably wouldn't put him into a tie today.
So you're saying wolves piled on an inactive without really advocating vocally for his lynch? Why would they do such a thing? I don't see the benefit for wolf!Arkasas in voting with Chieron on Agatha, and am not sure I like your thought process, although that may be just because I don't understand it well.Re: aedan's argument and stuff.
If it can be agreed that one, but not both, of a group is evil, is it not better to spare one today? If we get the right one today, we can clear the other by proxy. Furthermore, I'd argue that there's at least two people who would make good lynch options today, besides elowen.
Euro did everything in his power to avoid voting Chieron Day 2, all the while attempting to manipulate things and being up to apparent shenanigans the entire time.
Arkasas, meanwhile, voted with Chieron onto Witch Agatha yesterday, and has also had no meaningful distancing opportunities with Chieron, Caillean, or Elowen, except for today, where he's voting Elowen.
I consider Arkasas to be the better of these two alternative candidates, by the way, even if Euro already has votes.
That being said, this endeavor shouldn't distract from the lynching of one out of Caillean/Elowen, with my preferred target of the two being Caillean, who has been around longer and broke the tie. Elowen, who is new, I am willing to give slack to.
Unvote Caillean
Vote Arkasas
... Ah. WELL THEN. Given the timing here, the most likely scenario assuming wolf!Euro is that wolf!Caillean was about to get lynched and Euro decided to hammer on a strong townie. Else, town!Euro was given fake info by wolf!Elowen:Justice League Announcement
Dedonus the scanned werewolf is to be lynched today!
VOTE DEDONUS
This means both Caillean and Elowen are still highly suspicious, and how they flip should determine Euro's alignment pretty well: if Elowen flips wolf, Euro is cleared, and if Caillean flips wolf, Euro is most likely wolf as well. I think we should lynch between those two (and perhaps both). That's what we should have done yesterday anyway.Elowen gave me Dedonus's name
Vote Elowen
You mean... yourself? xDLet's return to yesterday's vote.
Vote Euro
Also, I may be paranoid, but seeing Agatha was town, Alxeu's post about Arkasas could be TMI: he's considering Agatha as town even though there's virtually no reason to do so.Day 4/Night 5
Deo the commie was hung.
Agatha the commie was hunted.
Re: aedan's argument and stuff.
If it can be agreed that one, but not both, of a group is evil, is it not better to spare one today? If we get the right one today, we can clear the other by proxy. Furthermore, I'd argue that there's at least two people who would make good lynch options today, besides elowen.
Euro did everything in his power to avoid voting Chieron Day 2, all the while attempting to manipulate things and being up to apparent shenanigans the entire time.
Arkasas, meanwhile, voted with Chieron onto Witch Agatha yesterday, and has also had no meaningful distancing opportunities with Chieron, Caillean, or Elowen, except for today, where he's voting Elowen.
I consider Arkasas to be the better of these two alternative candidates, by the way, even if Euro already has votes.
That being said, this endeavor shouldn't distract from the lynching of one out of Caillean/Elowen, with my preferred target of the two being Caillean, who has been around longer and broke the tie. Elowen, who is new, I am willing to give slack to.
Unvote Caillean
Vote Arkasas