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@RELee we enjoyed driving through Tennessee on our way here. Would like to go back to visit sometime.

@VILenin I actually started a V2 Heart of Darkness game yesterday to see how to play. I'm wary of getting back into a game campaign because I actually have the bug to write a novel again and I should keep that going. At the same time I've intermittently wanted to publish a reprise of Fire Warms the Northern Lands and an AAR might be a way of getting back into that also. I dunno. I might play a little and see how it takes me.

@HistoryDude we enjoyed visiting Phoenix and Flagstaff and the Grand Canyon a few years ago (and an awesome restaurant called Comodor Guadalajara - wow).

Another update hopefully this weekend, but I also need to pass on the Showcase of the Week Award and that's my first priority.

Thank you all for your comments! Also to those who voted for Shining Stars in the ACA Awards! Shining Stars came in 2nd for V2 in Q2 2023. Congratulations @HistoryDude for 1st place!

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I am actually looking forward to trying out Heart of Darkness. Strangely I've never played it before.

I'd be open to doing Prussia in V3 with a couple concerns or caveats.

1. I don't like how they did combat. At all. Gosh how I dislike it. Will my annoyance go away over time and will I eventually feel it's av realistic and entertaining game anyway?

2. I cannot - will not - run an AAR using that silly thing where occupied territory looks like flag wallpaper. Is there a mod that shades stuff like V2 does?

What other mods or DLCs would be good to look into? Primarily I'm interested in realism and immersion I guess.

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I cannot - will not - run an AAR using that silly thing where occupied territory looks like flag wallpaper.
I thought they patched that out. I haven't tried it since the patch.
 
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Already teasing your next AAR? ;) I have to admit, after poking around the forums again these past couple months I've got a bit of the writing bug myself, although I'm resisting the urge to launch into an AAR half-cocked. I'd love to see you do a Prussia redux at some point in the future, should time and circumstances allow.
I would certainly read it, @VILenin !
 
@VILenin I'd definitely follow also! What did you have in mind?

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@coz1 @Rensslaer Don't tempt me! XD I've been thinking about doing a gameplay focused Austria-Hungary in Darkest Hour (speaking of revisiting old AAR premises). I even took and edited some screenshots the other day. I had a miserable track record of finishing AARs even back when I was much more active, though, which has been holding me off. Maybe I'll try playing a bit and seeing where it takes me.
 
@VILenin I'd enjoy reading it, even if it didn't make it all the way. Austria Hungary is fascinating. After this came up I went back and read through Alone Against the Night, the first page of which was you and me and Stnylan and Vann the Red making Babylon 5 references, because of course Alone Against the Night hearkens back to that. lol

@everybody - apologies, I hope to have an update posted this weekend.

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Dear Readers,

I do have an update ready to go. Just need to insert screenshots and do a final edit. Later tonight?

Any new readers come due to the ACA voting, or the Weekly Showcase or HistoryDude's Review Corner? This AAR has been widely featured recently, and I very much appreciate the attention! :) Thank you!

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The mid-1860s were a period of rapid technological advancement for the United States. During the war iron steamers were introduced to replace the smaller steam-driven paddlewheel raiders.



It was realized, as the first ironclads were introduced to the United States Navy that the ships reported deployed off the United States coast by the British Royal Navy were still sail-borne.

The United States had been jostling with the newly formed North German Federation for 4th place, and they remained neck and neck during this period.



(And no, I cannot explain why the roundel up top says the US is in 4th place where the Ledger clearly shows the US is in 5th place in Total Score).

By the time both the Civil War and the 2nd Mexican War had concluded, the United States was well established as an industrial power. Shown below are the highest-producing RGOs and highest-producing Factories (this is only 1/4 of our total factories, most of which are producing less than £85).



The USA was running still at 5th in Industrial power, worldwide, but building it up every week. The acquisition of Clean Coal technology in mid-1865, and Pit Coal tech soon after, bumped this further. High & Low Pressure Steam Engines achieved in 1868.

Militarily, the United States strengthened its fortresses, including at San Francisco (to protect an important naval port) and San Diego (to protect against Mexico). Similar constructions and expansions were being conducted in Savannah, Boston, New York, Seattle and elsewhere.

Additionally, the United States was investing in more artillery regiments, which were using the cutting edge of artillery technology (Iron Muzzle-Loaded achieved in 1867). At this point, US artillery was probably ahead of every other country, both in numbers and tech.

Unfortunately, two of the most successful American generals of the last wars passed away during this time, and their leadership would be greatly missed. Gen. Donald Jackson died a year later.



In the “long game” of Sphere of Influence trading, Russia removed China from the UK’s SoI (with an accompanying abrogation of China’s alliance with the UK, which is helpful), and meanwhile France was improving their position. With the disruption of multiple contenders, it seemed like a good time to press the United States’ position also.

During this period I/we decided to improve our relations with France, in hopes that either she might help us one day against the British, or that they at least wouldn’t turn on us if we happened to go to war with one of her allies (which one is trivial – they switched up frequently, but at times included Spain, which was on our list of “nice to have” targets because of Cuba).

A quick look around the world at how it might be different from what we’re used to...



I think I already mentioned that Russia had conquered Persian territory, allowing them to access the Persian Gulf, but they’ve added another province or two since then, as seen. I believe that blue area on the Gulf (the Emirates) is French owned. Egypt looks powerful, but is soon to become a punching bag (was at war with Spain and Sardinia at the time of this shot). Just after this screenshot northwestern Egypt becomes controlled by Sardinia-Piedmont. That yellow-orange section in Turkey is Spanish owned. Libya is Ottoman, and the British have taken much of Ethiopia.

In 1871 we were cheered by news that an American explorer discovered the Source of the Nile. This netted a +110 to Prestige.



We were hoping this would be enough to catapult the USA past the North German Federation in the Great Powers contest, but we fell just short. Literally. In May 1871 the USA had 1368 points, and NGF had 1369. :D Russia was lagging far behind the US, and Austria was pacing far ahead of the NGF – this was our zone of contention, the two of us.




In 1870 the NGF had claimed a good portion of the Netherlands. In 1872 they went to war with the Dutch again, but this time France intervened to oppose the Germans, and so much of Europe was embroiled.

I don’t often dwell on “little” flavor events, but it’s hard to avoid mentioning The Great Chicago Fire. Oops! There went hopes and dreams of 100,000 people…. And, well, £25. Seems like that should be more fully reflected economically, but I suppose it’s a matter of scale.



And those weren’t the only hopes and dreams dashed in that year!

The USA by 1872 had surpassed the NGF in rank.

And also in 1872 the Empire of Mexico lost its Great Power status to Sweden.

They must have been pretty upset about this, or perhaps reacted badly to American taunting, but for whatever reason…







And so began the 3rd Mexican War …
 
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Will this war finally lead to Mexico acknowledging that the US is not a good enemy to have?

It's nice to see how the world changed. It's still somewhat familiar, but the lack of US intervention in Europe hasn't prevented divergences over there.

I wonder if the NGF will ever form Germany...
 
USA vs Mexico, round 3! I'm curious what your war goals will be this time around, if you're looking to take more land or achieve a reduction in some other way. I don't think you can effect a government change short of puppeting, is that right? Narratively, ending the "Empire" of Mexico and replacing it with a more democratic, less imperialist regime would certainly make sense.

Austria's industrial score has really taken off! I imagine the NGF will have a harder time achieving German Unification than they did in OTL if they decide to press for it. Can you tell us what the European/GP alliances are, if any?

Oh, and your AAR inspired me to reinstall Vic2 for the first time in ages. I started a USA game of my own and promptly got jumped by the UK in my first war against Mexico. Due to some weirdness in the notification settings, I didn't even notice that they'd joined the war until they'd occupied half of upstate New York! Clearly, mine is not a deft hand on the tiller of state. :rolleyes:
 
@HistoryDude Yeah I'm not seeing (yet) the map changing major wars in Europe like we've seen at other times. Granted, between 1815 and 1870ish OTL things stayed pretty much the same. European powers are fighting other countries, not each other for the most part.

But Mexico deciding to make a more permanent peace? That's always hard. You don't want to lose another war, but you DO want your land back, so... I shan't spoil the surprise.

@VILenin I'm also not seeing alot of great power alliances. Usually more great powers allying with secondary powers. And that maybe explains why there's less GP on GP conflict than we might otherwise expect.

What do I want? Well... You've seen so far that I'm not above taking ahistorical land from Britain. But that's partly to avoid refighting the last war over and over. With Mexico? I've achieved historical borders - do I whittle them more or try for peace. What do YOU think? :)

And I'm happy to hear you've started V2 again! The US is certainly interesting to play. I'm following @The Kingmaker 's V3 USA game and I pulled up someone else's on another computer and I can't recall now whose it is, nor whether it's V2 or V3.

I started playing Prussia in V2 HoD recently and my notifications weren't set to pause the game when another GP intervened in my war. And so it was a month into a war with France that I realized they were already in Westphalia!

Thank you for your readership and comments!

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In February 1872, as the 3rd Mexican-American War got underway, the United States of Central America (USCA) dishonored their alliance. Which was really too bad, because I had reserved a plan in the back of my mind that maybe it would be helpful to have part of the USCA as a puppet. It’s partly why I didn’t pursue the USCA (or Mexico) to include in my Sphere after the British started bidding for them a couple decades back.


What’s more, almost immediately Honduras declared independence from the USCA, which presented yet more possibilities, and yet ones which were not really practical to pursue in the current situation.

I’d previously mentioned that the French entered the war against Germany on the side of the Dutch… That’ll help us to hold our 4th Great Power slot against the NGF.

Gen. Brown drew first blood at Nogales, giving Gen. Porfirio Gomez a severe pasting despite Gomez’ superior defensive skills. Brown himself has offensive skills to balance out (+2 on both sides). Now, you may remember that our famous General Brown died in the last update. So this – following in Paradox tradition of repeating the same names over and over in random combinations – is Michael Brown, rather than the late Mark Brown. <sighs>



We had similar results in a battle at Monclova, nearby. This was starting out to look pretty good for the USA. Now, the challenge was to get enough American troops south far enough to prevent the conscription armies from appearing.



Sadly, that seemed a tall order, considering that so many Mexican Armies were stacked up against the border – we were going to be occupied long enough that I don’t think we’d be able to move south and accomplish our goal!



Gen. Brown’s quick victory at Nogales gained us +2.9 warscore. And we had actually built up 12 warscore by the 2nd month of the war simply from blockades! But the state of Morelia, which we had set as our purpose for war currently sat at 86 warscore value. That would go down as we captured those provinces, but for now it was a tall order. I felt a little confused that it was requiring so much warscore to take a single state. Anyway…

United States troops were landed in Veracruz and Villhermosa, near the Yucatan.

But Gen. Ulysses Seward, at Monclova, having won his first battle there, was now locked in a losing battle with a fresh Mexican army under Gen. Zaragoza. Seward found himself completely outmatched

On Mar 31 Gen. Brown retreated from Hermosillo – the second sign of changed fortunes.



On April 2nd, Zaragoza’s troops captured the American command tent and Gen. Seward died of his injuries shortly after. The remnants of his command fought on for another week, but then retreated. They took away the knowledge of having cost the enemy more casualties, but it was small comfort. To add to the bad news a small skirmish at Monterrey the next day resulted in the loss of an entire brigade.



In mid-April Mexico’s troop strength was about half that of the US. Two side notes – the US had 294 ships vs. the Royal British Navy’s 367, and a goodly number of the American ships were ironclads, most of the rest being commerce raiders. There were still definitely some sail-driven ships, but they were being slowly decommissioned. The British definitely had ironclads of their own by this point – I saw one right around this time. The other thing to note is the relative strengths of the German armies versus Dutch and French. I feel like the Germans are in check.

In Mid-May the Battle of Reynosa was won by Mexico’s Gen. Zaragoza against Gen. Abercrombie. Around the same time Gen. Ford was hard pressed at Veracruz. The bad news and the relative troop strengths after the Mexican mobilization forced America’s hand. A full mobilization of the United States’ citizenry was ordered, with 54 new brigades coming into service soon after.



In the closing days of May the battle of Veracruz was lost. And Gen. Abercrombie was losing the Battle of Morelos until reinforcements showed up, whereupon he pulled off by the skin of his teeth a significant victory (+1.4).

I actually believe, in retrospect, that the Empire of Mexico must have achieved a Tactics technology at around this time that made their troops equal to my own. I believe this because we went from winning handily to having a lot of trouble, and then later in the war when the USA achieved a tech advancing our Tactics once more, we began to win again.



In June the United States started to get its act together. The name of the game was – always is – destroying the enemy in battle, not just winning battlefield victories. Heretofore it hadn’t been entirely possible – there were too many Mexican armies, and too few United States armies in-theatre.

At the end of May Gen. Valentin Cervantes had won the Battle of Veracruz, and had made a strategic withdrawal with nearly 30,000 soldiers toward Oaxaca. The US Army determined to meet him in battle there, surround him, and trap him there where he could not escape.



A holding force met Cervantes in the mountains, eliminating his natural advantages in combat by forcing him to attack an entrenched force in difficult terrain. Then Gen. Ford followed with reinforcements and began the process of bleeding Cervantes dry. It was an inelegant battle – the United States had the edge primarily because it could continue throwing fresh troops into the battle while the Mexicans were stuck. All the considerations that could be controlled favored the US Army, but reducing 30,000 enemy troops of basically equal training and skill was a dangerous, nasty endeavor.

Meanwhile the Battle of Delicias demonstrates the decisiveness of American artillery, when we were able to get it into action.



Frustratingly, by the end of June 1872 – five months in – the United States still held no occupied territory through the whole of Mexico! Everyplace where we had landed was contested, and our armies were forced to scramble too much to actually take and hold enemy land. Soon, we hoped, our advancing technology, artillery, the destruction of enemy armies, and the arrival of fresh conscripts from the States would turn things around.
 
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History students must despise the similar names of the two Browns...

America seems to be doing okay in this war, although occupying territory would be more ideal.
 
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It's good to watch America struggle.

And in the game as well.
 
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I started playing Prussia in V2 HoD recently and my notifications weren't set to pause the game when another GP intervened in my war. And so it was a month into a war with France that I realized they were already in Westphalia!
I'm glad I'm not the only one this has happened to!

The Mexicans are putting up quite the fight, which I'm sure has come as a rude shock to many Americans. Still, barring something like France and the UK joining the fray, the end doesn't seem in doubt. How much does mobilization impact your economy? And does it have an effect on the consciousness/militancy of POPs? This being an aggressive war that's seen early setbacks (I'm sure the newspapers are lining up to decry how badly Washington has bungled things), I'd imagine conscription would be pretty unpopular, unless you have a very jingoistic population.

As a sidenote, I love all the different flags Vicky had to swap in and out based on the government type, like the variant for the Empire of Mexico we see in the screenshots. Such a cool level of detail!
 
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For me, it was my first ever play through as the U.S. I was fully engrossed in battling Mexico when I realized that Great Britain was moving south from Canada and laying waste to New England and Michigan. I was not happy that the default settings were not setup to notify me of an invasion I can tell you. I will not call it a rage quit, but I did restart that game and chalked it up as a learning experience. ;)
 
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History students must despise the similar names of the two Browns...

:rofl: I know that pain. I think in your History of Russia AAR I related my experience with all the Ivans and Yuris and Vasilys... most of whom seemed to have died suddenly of poison.

It's good to watch America struggle.

And in the game as well.

Ha! A little inter-pond rivalry! :D This will play out again...

The Mexicans are putting up quite the fight, which I'm sure has come as a rude shock to many Americans. Still, barring something like France and the UK joining the fray, the end doesn't seem in doubt. How much does mobilization impact your economy? And does it have an effect on the consciousness/militancy of POPs? This being an aggressive war that's seen early setbacks (I'm sure the newspapers are lining up to decry how badly Washington has bungled things), I'd imagine conscription would be pretty unpopular, unless you have a very jingoistic population.

As a sidenote, I love all the different flags Vicky had to swap in and out based on the government type, like the variant for the Empire of Mexico we see in the screenshots. Such a cool level of detail!

Well...

I think public opinion has maybe not as much effect on our course of warfare as it should. But in my game the population seems content to let things play out. There is a fair amount of jingoism. I recall at times having to wait to add more wargoals because the jingoism was too low, but then it increased, so...

Yeah I remember Vicky 1 had a lot of these flags also. I got really irritated in Fire Warms the Northern Lands when Denmark went communist, with a hammer and sickle flag, and they were a vassal so I couldn't invade and change their government, no matter how much I wanted to!

For me, it was my first ever play through as the U.S. I was fully engrossed in battling Mexico when I realized that Great Britain was moving south from Canada and laying waste to New England and Michigan. I was not happy that the default settings were not setup to notify me of an invasion I can tell you. I will not call it a rage quit, but I did restart that game and chalked it up as a learning experience. ;)

I remember being shocked in Vicky 1 (while playing for what would become Fire Warms the Northern Lands) I was shocked when the hordes of French armies arrived after their mobilization. I remember thinking (originally) that it would harm my economy to mobilize, so I was hoping to avoid that. But then my little Prussian Army was facing the French Hordes and I was thinking "I.... didn't expect THIS much of a change from the French mobilizing..." lol

Thank you all for reading! And especially those of you who comment! It's definitely encouraging to get comments, and while I temper my expectations because this is an older game, it's still really nice to hear from readers!

Another update is almost ready and will be posted this weekend sometime.

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When last we met our heroes, the US was struggling to find purchase against Mexico, but our big break seemed to have come with the Battle of Oaxaca, where Gen. Ford had brought Gen. Cervantes to battle at Oaxaca in circumstances that favored the USA, despite Cervantes’ advantages on offense.

In the bloody days that followed, the mountains of Oaxaca became a meat grinder, crushing both armies to a pulp, even as some American armies were rotated out and other armies – American and Mexican – arrived to try to prop up their side of the battle.



By mid July Gen. Tomas Allen pressured Gen. Sebastian Kosterlitzky to defeat. The battle had killed or injured nearly 14,000 soldiers on each side. But when Kosterlitzky retreated toward Puebla, he took only 21,000 troops with him, whereas the Americans had amassed nearly 47,000 at Oaxaca, and other thousands in the surrounding lands.

A full cordon was constructed, so that there would be no escape for the Mexican army now resting and recuperating in the mountains of Puebla. This would be a bloody battle if it were joined with Americans attacking into the mountains, and so this was meant to be avoided. This was containment, for now.

Improvements in Army Planning provided new tactics (+100 Tactics – a big boost), and also held out the promise of higher organization and morale (+5 org, +50% Morale).



Soon Gen. Ford would be occupying Mexico City and the southern remnants of the Mexican Army would be surrounded at Puebla. The only trick was preventing Gen. Gomez (who had taken command of this army) from striking out at one of the weaker screening forces. Toward this end, over coming weeks, the USA played a game of moving forward to attack Gomez’ flank any time he moved toward his perimeter, and once Gomez stood still once more, the Americans would resume their blocking positions. It was a matter of advantage, and if Gomez couldn’t achieve it, he was better off where he was.

The northern remnants of the Mexican Army were holed up in the mountains of Parral, and in Saltillo, under Gen. Zaragoza. Gen. Abercrombie again battled with Zaragoza there through much of August. By Sep. 6 Zaragoza’s force was beaten, and though Zaragoza himself had slipped out somehow, his command surrendered, as they were surrounded.

Mexican losses had been tremendous, and that was likely due to the Tactics increase.



Zaragoza took command of the force at Parral, and dared to attempt a breakout of what was by November a spread out net of American armies. He attacked Gen. Allen at Santa Maria del Oro, and a combination of factors made it untenable for Zaragoza.



On the 1st of December Gen. Adkins won a significant victory against Gen. Cervantes at Veracruz. That entire Mexican army was killed, injured or taken captive.

Then, Gen. Gomez was allowed to attack the surrounding American armies where it was felt he could be dealt with. At the beginning of December, Gen. Ford defeated Gen. Gomez at Tulancingo, causing a loss of half Gomez’ army for a lesser cost to Ford.



Finally, on Dec. 12 Zaragoza surrendered – in person this time – at Santa Maria del Oro. It was a total loss of the 23,000 soldiers under his command. It added +3.5 to the USA warscore.

That was the end of the Mexican Army as a fighting force. No full brigades of soldiers remained to them. And their navy was reduced to only 5 sailing ships in harbor somewhere.



Between December 1872 and February 1873 the United States consolidated its control over the “Empire of Mexico”. Mexico City was occupied and subdued.

The original demand, when war was declared, was for the state of Morelia. But after such a hard-fought war, the American president was looking for more.



The demand was additionally placed for the state of Jalisco to be ceded to the United States of America.

The Mexicans screamed with outrage at the negotiation tables, and resisted stubbornly.

And so the United States added another demand – the state of Zacatecas.

It was then that the Mexicans realized they had no bargaining chips left, and would have to give in to whatever the United States asked. They sought to make peace before the United States asked for more.



Bureaucrats were immediately recruited, and capitalists, and industrialists, and immigrants, all directed toward these newly held provinces in order to begin integrating them into the United States of America.

The US Navy began setting up shop in the newly acquired port cities of Puerta Vallarta and Acapulco. The US Army began setting up in mountain redoubts within sight of Mexico City itself.

It was felt this might serve as a warning to Mexico not to mess with the United States again.
 
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